And this is why the fed bows to wall street, this is why BUBBLE ben bernanke did QE 1 QE 2 and QE 3

There's no doubt that business owners don't get enough credit for the risks they take. Risk should equal reward. But here is what I don't get. I have a job and get paid from my employer but I also get paid a 1099 for the same job from another source. The 1099 makes up about 40% of my income. On that money I have to pay about 46% tax. That's 25% federal, 13% self employment, and 8% state tax. Now, I don't even make close to $100k a year. Why in the world do I have to pay 46% in taxes and the rich guy who buys stocks that are then inflated by the Fed gets to pay 20%?

While I agree that most people were not born into wealth, I do believe that those 50+ had much easier opportunities. How many times have we heard how the trading, education, gambling, business etc opportunities were so much better in years past? Now it seems the ones staying ahead now are just using the resources gained in the past. I love it when the 50+ crowd complains about the lazy people working at Wal-Mart and how they should live in poverty cause they don't have real jobs. Then they turn around and pay for their kids education, cars, health care, housing etc while they work jobs that don't pay much. What's the real difference between their kids and the people at Wal-Mart? A big chuck is who their parents are. Give every person at Wal-Mart a free college education like you gave your kid and let's see how they turn out.


Because encouraging investment is something that helps the entire economy. If you tax it more, you get less of it. Why would you want less investment?
 
Because encouraging investment is something that helps the entire economy. If you tax it more, you get less of it. Why would you want less investment?
Why would you want somebody who makes a million in capital gains to be taxed at a lower rate than somebody working a job making $50k?

If higher tax brackets discourage somebody to do something, then using your logic nobody would go to work. Why would someone pay 30% in taxes at a $50k job when they can just invest and pay 20%? Yet they do. Just like investments would still be made if they were taxed at the same rate that income is. Do you think that if you went to Bill Gates 30 years ago and said to him he's going to get rich off of Microsoft but his $100B is going to be taxed at 39% instead of 20% that he would not have still worked just as hard to build his company? Yours is the exact same argument that Mitt Romney made during his campaign. Last time I checked, it didn't work out to well for him. He's still fine though. He's got his $200 million tax free in his IRA that he used to buy class B shares of the company's he invested in.
 
Why would you want somebody who makes a million in capital gains to be taxed at a lower rate than somebody working a job making $50k?

If higher tax brackets discourage somebody to do something, then using your logic nobody would go to work. Why would someone pay 30% in taxes at a $50k job when they can just invest and pay 20%? Yet they do. Just like investments would still be made if they were taxed at the same rate that income is. Do you think that if you went to Bill Gates 30 years ago and said to him he's going to get rich off of Microsoft but his $100B is going to be taxed at 39% instead of 20% that he would not have still worked just as hard to build his company? Yours is the exact same argument that Mitt Romney made during his campaign. Last time I checked, it didn't work out to well for him. He's still fine though. He's got his $200 million tax free in his IRA that he used to buy class B shares of the company's he invested in.

First of all, someone in high tax states such as New York and California, making $50,000 will take home after all income and payroll taxes over 76%, not 70% as you said.

Secondly, work and investing are two totally separate issues. Regardless if my taxes are 15% or 45%, I'm going to work to feed and cloth my family. There is virtually no risk to working, but there is huge risk in not working.

However, there are big disincentives to taking risks in capital investments if most or much of your upside reward is taken away. You have unlimited risk on the downside (lose everything), so you also need a lot of upside potential.

Talking about Bill Gates or Mitt Romney, is a total exaggeration of what capital gains are to the vast majority of people that have them. When Bill Gates started MSFT, he probably didn't plan on being a billionaire.

For the business guy that risks everything and works 70+ hours/week so that he can sell his business in 15-20 years in order to make a couple of million dollars so that he can retire, tax brackets are very meaningful.

I think it's good to encourage capital investments, because capital investments ALWAYS equate to job formation.
 
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