Quote from OPTIONAL777:
Waiting for your proof based on what is actually known by observers and observations (not speculated greasy imaginations of random ignorant chance) of design and chance in biology.
Happenings are happenings in the universe. Without any question, things happen.
Why and how do they happen? This is the part where scientists rely on their own imaginations to fill in the gaps.
Explanations of why things happen the way they do, or that we even happen to have a universe at all, and a universe that supports human life, are shaped by the bent of the person groping for an explanation, and in the absence of factual evidence of cause...he renders simply guesses. If one is predisposed to chance, then they will believe and accept chance without question. If someone doesn't believe in chance, but rather believes in cause and effect, that person will not be satisfied to give credit to chance, when giving credit to chance, or luck, or anything else that is not explained...is just a practice of superstition and sloppy thinking.
The one who opposes the concept that the universe exists by design, and subscribes to the belief that non life by itself combined with itself and the environment by chance to produce life is atheistic.
Gee, I guess that makes stu an atheist without evidence or proof of the cause of anything at all...just sloppy guessing to fill in the enormous gaps where we have no knowledge of cause.
So laughable this lifeless primordial soup...that just happened by itself...then just happened by itself to assemble itself into life. When and how did this primordial soup first appear? How long did this primordial soup exist before it magically created life from itself? What created this primordial soup? Oh yeah, some external forces of nature just happened along by chance to cause the generation the process of life from non life. The soup was just sitting there doing nothing on its own, and suddenly and magically, like the story of God breathing life into a piece of clay...the soup was breathed upon by some external lifeless force to produce life. Some lifeless process produced life. Sure, it happens all the time. Some chance encounter of two lifeless existences produced life from lifelessness.
How do these things just happen by themselves? Well, ask an atheist and they will tell you a bedtime story that Mr. Chance was behind all of it. Mr. Chance was there before the big bang, Mr. Chance was there when the primordial soup was assembled from non soup. Mr. Chance was there when life first came on the scene from lifeless soup. Mr. Chance was there in each change in life from one form of life to another form of life. Mr. Chance explains everything. Fables are like that.
A child might believe that, this magical and mystical force of Mr. Chance...but of course the real and true objective scientist sees no Mr. Chance, no force of chance, no law of chance...he just sees cause and effect...and if he is really desperate to create a theory to explain what he doesn't know...he will apply his childhood fairy tale of Mr. Chance doing it all.
QUOTE]Quote from stu:
It doesn't surprise me neither chance nor design is known to you in biology .
It's essential to your assertions that such things are not known of.
To an ID'er, denial and ignorance is everything.
Yes of course you do already know that magical chance thingy/theory.
You call it "design" but of course it is actually intelligent design creationism .
