Analysis of Christopher Hitchen's argument against God

Illogical.

You are trying to fight one opinion, i.e. non design evolutionary theory of scientists...with some other opinion of a scientist.

Go deeper.

Exclude opinions from being labeled as fact, and the whole game changes.

Quote from jem:

duh..... that is his opinion... you call that a response...

It is a nobel prize winners opinion in his field.

Are you proposing he is not basing his opinion on evidence?

That he and the others I have quoted -- all of a sudden have psychotic breaks with their fields of research and understanding once they offer an opinion you find challenging?


if his opinion it is not worthy of weight... explain why he, a noble prize winner is wrong.

if it is not based on science explain what it is based on or why it is not based on science?


Is it because you feeeeeeel he is wrong?
because you do not want him to be right?
because it conflicts with your preconceived ideas?
 
Random ignorant chance is not proved. Is is an assumption based on limited facts...or are you suggesting we have all the facts to complete a proof?

Quote from stu:

You can't prove that.
 
"It makes little difference as the question still stands."

Then why go to the trouble of changing the question...


Quote from stu:

Talk about overkill .

You know, if that sentence could reproduce mutate and be subject to natural selection, I wouldn't even have had to remove the offending word. Subject to natural selection, it wouldn't have survived.

My bad. I didn't notice I had included it.

  • What is it ID'ers have against <strike>inanimate</strike> organisms that reproduce, mutate and are subject to natural selection simply showing the results of all that in designs and as a matter of fact?

It makes little difference as the question still stands.
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

"It makes little difference as the question still stands."

Then why go to the trouble of changing the question...
The question hasn't changed.
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Random ignorant chance is not proved. Is is an assumption based on limited facts...or are you suggesting we have all the facts to complete a proof?

What facts do you think they are? Not those Evolutionary ones for some reason ?
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Illogical.

You are trying to fight one opinion, i.e. non design evolutionary theory of scientists...with some other opinion of a scientist.

Go deeper.

Exclude opinions from being labeled as fact, and the whole game changes.

go deeper yourself you skimmed right over the real issue.

you did not answer my question.

why is it that you feeeeeeeeeeel that the expert's opinion is wrong.

you have given no basis to reject it.
 
I don't know that the scientist is right in his opinion, or wrong in his opinion.

I don't feel he is right, nor wrong in his opinion. I do think that he doesn't have sufficient information to reach his conclusion...but that's only because he doesn't have all the facts.



Quote from jem:

go deeper yourself you skimmed right over the real issue.

you did not answer my question.

why is it that you feeeeeeeeeeel that the expert's opinion is wrong.

you have given no basis to reject it.
 
Evolutionary facts?

Funny...

Presupposing evolution generates facts of biological processes...fascinating. Truly fascinating.

Evolution is a process, not the biological organisms themselves.

Even the theory of Darwin has "evolved" into different theories...so the theory of evolution has evolved, but biological processes themselves? Nope.

It would be interesting to speculate if any complex biological organism evolves first, or Darwin's Theory evolves itself out of science first.

I also note how you capitalized "Evolutionary"....again, quite funny.

Quote from stu:

What facts do you think they are? Not those Evolutionary ones for some reason ?
 
Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Evolutionary facts?

Funny...

Presupposing evolution generates facts of biological processes...fascinating. Truly fascinating.

Evolution is a process, not the biological organisms themselves.

Even the theory of Darwin has "evolved" into different theories...so the theory of evolution has evolved, but biological processes themselves? Nope.

It would be interesting to speculate if any complex biological organism evolves first, or Darwin's Theory evolves itself out of science first.

I also note how you capitalized "Evolutionary"....again, quite funny.
What a load of rubbish.
ID creationist codswallop to deny fact as if doing so was some sort of basis for wild speculation to assume a magic creator.
 
Quote from jem:

and stu... telling me I was taking de duve out of context...

I told you no such thing. I said you were purposely misinforming and therefore a fraud and a liar. You ignored your error and repeated posting an incomplete quote to misguide.
Nothing to do with context.
 
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