I'd argue... "Too late. bigarrow won already" .Quote from bigarrow:
"It seems clear that there is fine tuning" Now that is irrefutable proof if you ask me. I don't know how you can argue with that stu.
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Its not suppose to settle anything..
When atheist say there is no evidence of a Creator .. my point is they are ignorant or lying.
I am not saying there is proof of creator . just some evidence to be considered.
You may reject it... you may say there could be almost infinite other universes.
You can come up with some other idea, you can even say you remain unconvinced....
but do not give me the no evidence statement.
The scientific theories are based on the available facts, such as they are. These theories are far more credible than the "theories" that people just pull out of their armpits that are in no way falsifiable. And as Karl Popper pointed out, a theory that is unfalsifiable is to that extent a weak theory. So let us not make the mistake of false equivalency.Quote from OPTIONAL777:
...That's my issue really with all the speculation of evolution...
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The scientific theories are based on the available facts, such as they are. These theories are far more credible than the "theories" that people just pull out of their armpits that are in no way falsifiable. And as Karl Popper pointed out, a theory that is unfalsifiable is to that extent a weak theory. So let us not make the mistake of false equivalency.
This thread is about Christopher Hitchens. Unless posters have read any of his books, which I have, then they are not really in a position to judge his work. His books are in full and proper context and with a full bibliography of references. That is the place to start rather than accepting at face value the parsing out of carefully chosen snippets by his detractors. Thinking people should know better.