Analysis of Christopher Hitchen's argument against God

[MarketMasher]

Quote from stu:

Let me spell it out for you.

Firstly, you say someone has to be all knowledgeable to know about the existence or non existenece of God.

So how come YOU know that about the existence or non existenece of God . Are you all knowledegable?


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Hope that helps.

You're trying to change the subject.


You said you knew God does not exist. I said I am uncertain.

The question of God is a biggie, if nothing else because it has occupied so much of mankind's attention for so long.

In that context, your claim of knowing is pretty big.

So you are not only stating what you believe to be as fact to anyone who reads your assertion - it is contrary to most of human history.

I would think that claim would require something more than "Because I say so." You made the claim. Repeat - I am uncertain.

So prove your claim. Of we'll just call it your belief (faith).

 

[killthesunshine]

Quote from MarketMasher:

You're trying to change the subject.


You said you knew God does not exist. I said I am uncertain.

The question of God is a biggie, if nothing else because it has occupied so much of mankind's attention for so long.

In that context, your claim of knowing is pretty big.

So you are not only stating what you believe to be as fact to anyone who reads your assertion - it is contrary to most of human history.

I would think that claim would require something more than "Because I say so." You made the claim. Repeat - I am uncertain.

So prove your claim. Of we'll just call it your belief (faith).

what are you "uncertain" of? "God" is a word...w/o definition. or with many definitions..what's yours?

how can we refute or support that which is w/o definiton? is it the sun "God" you worship, or the rain "God"?

 

[OPTIONAL777]

I did define it, see above.

Quote from killthesunshine:

define "Totality" !!! define it dammit! i'll tear it apart!!

 

[killthesunshine]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

I did define it, see above.

uhh, where above?

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Totality is the sum of all totalities.

The universe is a totality. Is the universe the Totality? Opinions vary on that one. Most people think the universe had a beginning, so prior to the universe beginning what was there?

Some say "nothing" but I say, the potential was there for the universe to exist. And potential is something, not nothing.

Totality includes everything...it includes the universe, it includes what if anything preceded the universe, it will contain what happens if the universe ends, it would contain all other universes if they exist.

That Totality=God.

You might study Universal set theory, that might help you with the general concept of totalities, and The Totality.

Quote from killthesunshine:

uhh, where above?

 

[killthesunshine]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Totality is the sum of all totalities.

The universe is a totality. Is the universe the Totality? Opinions vary on that one. Most people think the universe had a beginning, so prior to the universe beginning what was there?

Some say "nothing" but I say, the potential was there for the universe to exist. And potential is something, not nothing.

Totality includes everything...it includes the universe, it includes what if anything preceded the universe, it will contain what happens if the universe ends, it would contain all other universes if they exist.

That Totality=God.

You might study Universal set theory, that might help you with the general concept of totalities, and The Totality.

stu, login. gabfly, login.

we have at least a partial definition on record!

 

[OPTIONAL777]

Why do you cry for help?

Can't you think for yourself?

Quote from killthesunshine:

stu, login. gabfly, login.

we have at least a partial definition on record!

 

[killthesunshine]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Why do you cry for help?

Can't you think for yourself?

why... are you afraid of them? does their rapier like reasoning scare you off your high horse?

 

[OPTIONAL777]

No, of course not. I am just laughing you...

"Quote from killthesunshine:

define "Totality" !!! define it dammit! i'll tear it apart!!"

Looks like you are more like an infant tearing for your mommy and daddy...

Quote from killthesunshine:

why... are you afraid of them?

 

[bigarrow]

Quote from OPTIONAL777:

Totality is the sum of all totalities.

The universe is a totality. Is the universe the Totality? Opinions vary on that one. Most people think the universe had a beginning, so prior to the universe beginning what was there?

Some say "nothing" but I say, the potential was there for the universe to exist. And potential is something, not nothing.

Totality includes everything...it includes the universe, it includes what if anything preceded the universe, it will contain what happens if the universe ends, it would contain all other universes if they exist.

That Totality=God.

You might study Universal set theory, that might help you with the general concept of totalities, and The Totality.

This post of yours reminds me of the dialog in one of those B movies of the 60's with the stoned hippie talking philosophy and pondering the meaning of life.