Amy Coney Barrett - let the games begin

[Buy1Sell2]

Mostly true in regard to the final confirmation votes.

For procedural matters to keep the process going and the informational hearings leading up to it, it is less clear. Mostly not a problem in the lead up on procedural matters. They have more leeway to keep things moving as long as there is a quorum at the time of the final vote. Just as an aside, which may be relevant at some point, a covid-stricken senator appearing isolated off in the gallery still counts toward the quorum.

I posted this/below, the other day. I will recycle it a little:

A quorum is required to hold a vote and -it varies from committee to committee but to hear sworn testimony- usually a smaller subset are allowed to hear sworn testimony too.

A quorum however is not required to begin a hearing. And in instances where a quorum is required to hear sworn testimony they can get the witness to testify and then swear to the truthfulness of the previous testimony when they have quorum, and other tactics.

The point being that - contrary to what Schumer and company are arguing- Mitch can still go forward even without a quorum as long as he can get a quorum by the end of the month at some point when votes are required. He can also hold all sorts of virtual hearings with Amy Barrett and Senators such that the Senators continue to establish her record and so that when the time comes they can say that they are sufficiently informed to vote and if the dems did not want to participate, well frig em then, they had their chance. He would not be getting into any senate rule problems unless he was trying to do voting remote. And in other procedures he would get into trouble trying to subpoena witnesses but that does not apply where the nominee is and will voluntarily appear for information background hearings.

I dont want to get too far into the weeds, but I dont want anyone thinking that this quorum thing- will stop the process. It won't. It will have to be dealt with at the end of the month if they want to vote before the election but don't count on there not being a quorum just because one may be lacking at one point in time- or not. Full speed ahead. And if they do the vote right after the election, that could be okay too. Not the first choice but definitely a nice option too. Works even if Trump loses.

They'll just clear the chamber and have all the Senators come in one by one to vote if necessary, in the event of Kung Flu. ACB will be confirmed-- I guarantee it.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

They'll just clear the chamber and have all the Senators come in one by one to vote if necessary, in the event of Kung Flu. ACB will be confirmed-- I guarantee it.

Oh. yeh. She is on track.

Some of this is uncharted territory but some of it is not. We have confirmed a pantload of lower court judges and justices through this covid mess. You have to pick your way along as to what can be done remotely and what can't but you just work with it. There is a lot of gruntwork involved in confirming judges, fbi investigations, letting senators go on the record with whatever their view is, letting them collectively or even individually if needed cross-examine the nominee etc. All that can go on. You have to have a plan for the quorum of the final vote but that is not a reason to do nothing in the weeks preceeding.

The dems play games. No surprise there. They were fine with Comey testifying and appearing virtually last week. But now Andrew McCabe is refusing to appear virtually - because of covid- that's right-you heard me. Covid can get you over the internet too. And the libs appear to be okay with that too. Games. They are trying to run out the clock so that he does not appear before the election.

 

[Buy1Sell2]

Oh. yeh. She is on track.

Some of this is unchartered territory but some of it is not. We have confirmed a pantload of lower court judges and justices through this covid mess. You have to pick your way along as to what can be done remotely and what can't but you just work with it. There is a lot of gruntwork involved in confirming judges, fbi investigations, letting senators go on the record with whatever their view is, letting them collectively or even individually if needed cross-examine the nominee etc. All that can go on. You have to have a plan for the quorum of the final vote but that is not a reason to do nothing in the weeks preceeding.

The dems play games. No surprise there. They were fine with Comey testifying and appearing virtually last week. But now Andrew McCabe is refusing to appear virtually - because of covid- that's right-you heard me. Covid can get you over the internet too. And the libs appear to be okay with that too. Games. They are trying to run out the clock so that he does not appear before the election.

There are other procedural moves that can be used to get around quorum. In addition, when Ted Kennedy was not able to come in, Republicans did the decent thing and didn't fully show up so that his vote was not needed. Don't look for anything like that from The Idiot Dems this time 'round.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

There are other procedural moves that can be used to get around quorum. In addition, when Ted Kennedy was not able to come in, Republicans did the decent thing and didn't fully show up so that his vote was not needed. Don't look for anything like that from The Idiot Dems this time 'round.

It's complicated. Dems have secret knowledge.

For example- going back to McCabe for a minute- he has secret knowledge about how covid can get you over the internet if you are required to testify virtually before a Senate Committee. But he apparently has secret knowledge about how to keep from catching covid over the internet when he appears virtually on CNN every week/day as a paid contributor.

Yeh. complicated.

Comey is like that too. He has volumes and volumes of notes he took in regard to anything bad on Trump. Even gave copies to law professors and the New York Times. He has a perfect memory of everything Trump did when he met with him about the FBI job and other matters at that time. He made it crystal clear that it has always been his habit throughout his career to write everything down and document, document, document. Then he appears to testify about the most important FBI investigation in the history of the country that he was in charge of and he repeatedly can't remember a damn thing and says he never knew because he always delegated lower level investigations like that to others.

Complicated the way these great minds work.

 

[vanzandt]

Rumors are flying that there's gonna be some kind of swift vote for her approval.

Is there a trade here?

EDIT: Where's Tree? How's this work? Wtf is a swift vote?

Edit2: Is this Lindsey playing to the base? He's in a tight race. Isn't the vote on her his call? The guy he's running against just set some kind of fund raising record.

Edit3: If all else fails, Lindsey and Newt can get a prime-time story hour on Trump TV I guess. Its not like they're gonna starve. Lotta black voters in SC that's for sure. That's how we got stuck with Sleepy Joe.

I guess go long the Vix for the next week or so.

 

[elderado]

That face sure looks familiar. Isn't that the hag who testified at Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings? She was a total buffoonish bitch!

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

I wonder if the dems are going to ask if Avenatti can video-zoom into the confirmation hearings next week.

We know he was a hit and a rising star in the Kavanaugh hearings. Always had some really great bullshit witnesses. He was so popular and credible that he was appearing as a contributor on CNN and was being as a touted as a dem nominee.

I wonder whatever happened to him and how that "restoring integrity" is coming along.

 

[TreeFrogTrader]

CODE RED CROCK ALERT!!!!!

STOLEN VALOR SCUMBAG LYING ASS CHEAT BOTTOMFEEDING TRASH SEN. BLUMENTHAL IS SPEAKING. CAMPAIGNED BY TELLING PEOPLE HE SERVED IN VIETNAM IN A COMBAT ROLE. LATER SAID HE HAS NEVER BEEN THERE. DEM VOTERS SAID THAT IS FINE.

PISS ON THIS MAN WHENEVER AND WHEREVER HE IS TO BE FOUND.

 

[Nine_Ender]

For those who claimed on here that getting 2 or 3 Supreme Court judges nominated would make the whole thing worth it, that is apparently the only "positive" you'll get. You'll get the judges, and then see Democrats take everything in the election. You've gotten the worst Covid experience in the Western World, a huge federal debt load under Trump that must be paid off with higher taxes, no Wall of note, highest trade deficit in recent history, worst social conflicts in decades, and your health care system isn't fixed.

Congratulations MoneyLessMatthew ( and others ) on getting what you wanted !!! Hope that Supreme Court changes your life to make up for all the other shit going on. I suppose some might say higher stock markets but in reality such moves are cyclical in nature and have very little to do with politics.

 

[Tsing Tao]

For those who claimed on here that getting 2 or 3 Supreme Court judges nominated would make the whole thing worth it, that is apparently the only "positive" you'll get. You'll get the judges, and then see Democrats take everything in the election. You've gotten the worst Covid experience in the Western World, a huge federal debt load under Trump that must be paid off with higher taxes, no Wall of note, highest trade deficit in recent history, worst social conflicts in decades, and your health care system isn't fixed.

Congratulations MoneyLessMatthew ( and others ) on getting what you wanted !!! Hope that Supreme Court changes your life to make up for all the other shit going on. I suppose some might say higher stock markets but in reality such moves are cyclical in nature and have very little to do with politics.

I was one who claimed that. And yes, it is worth it. Whether the Democrats take "the whole thing" in the election remains to be seen, but even if they do, it is still worth it.

COVID would have happened with Hillary the same as with Trump. To suggest otherwise is silly. The big difference here would have been the lockdowns in an election year. The left wouldn't have pushed for such extensive narratives and we'd have handled it similarly to the Swine Flu.

We'd have had the same federal debt load under Democrats (indeed, we will see this when we get Biden and it'll be very obvious), we'd never have had a wall with Hillary - so that's a moot point, it is highly unlikely the trade deficit would have changed and the health care system still would have been where it is today.

About the only thing that would be different is the social conflicts, which would never have been instigated by the democratic party because they would want peace and quiet for the election year rather than Orangeman Bad politics. So yeah, in that light - it was worth it to get three justices.