America's Middle-Class Is Losing Ground to Canada's

So, would you buy today? Do you expect further Chinese money to make its way to Vancouver and Toronto? Are you confident that China won't succeed with controlling capital outflows from China? Are you positive that the local population and BC government will not further tighten laws to limit foreign purchases as soon as demand picks up again?

There is so much wrong with this statement. The majority of posters on here declared Toronto a real estate in a bubble as far back as 2010, that the SPX was a great short from 2010-2013, that that AAPL was overvalued in 2003, ... .

In reality. the SPX, AAPL, and Toronto real estate were some of the most reliable assets to own from 2009-2019. For those who ignore the cynics, serious money to be made and relatively low risk compared to many alternatives.
 
So, would you buy today? Do you expect further Chinese money to make its way to Vancouver and Toronto? Are you confident that China won't succeed with controlling capital outflows from China? Are you positive that the local population and BC government will not further tighten laws to limit foreign purchases as soon as demand picks up again?

The Toronto market isn't dependent on "Chinese money".
 
"Foreign Investments – Foreign investors tend to focus on the high-end real estate market. They can afford to pay big money and this in turn drives up housing costs all across the city. But they have also been labelled ‘property scalpers’ buying up properties and then flipping them. Instead of local costs reflecting local salaries, locals are left to compete with massive wealth from outside of their country. Vancouver has proposed a specific tax for foreign real estate buyers, which seems like a good route for Toronto to take as well and the Liberal government in Ontario is planning to implement it. It’s a way to protect it’s own citizens and making sure they are able to afford to live in their cities."

The Toronto market isn't dependent on "Chinese money".
 
"Foreign Investments – Foreign investors tend to focus on the high-end real estate market. They can afford to pay big money and this in turn drives up housing costs all across the city. But they have also been labelled ‘property scalpers’ buying up properties and then flipping them. Instead of local costs reflecting local salaries, locals are left to compete with massive wealth from outside of their country. Vancouver has proposed a specific tax for foreign real estate buyers, which seems like a good route for Toronto to take as well and the Liberal government in Ontario is planning to implement it. It’s a way to protect it’s own citizens and making sure they are able to afford to live in their cities."

This girl posts a link, the first actual evidence of anything in 5 pages of her drivel, andddd...it's from 2017.

I can see why she thinks Canadian RE is "overvalued". I stand by my call that @GRULSTMRNN is retarded on Canadian RE.
 
I did not mean to imply that Toronto real estate is entirely driven by Chinese money. If I implied that or said it outright then I apologize. I think a second large driver is the arrival of a lot of tech talent in the city. Why was Toronto really cheap about 1-2 decades ago. Toronto real estate did not stand out in any meaningful way. Yet as soon as the Chinese started to invade Canada, New Zealand, and Australia then urban real estate started to pop and priced out many locals. That Chinese money was a mix of pure foreign investments for diversification purposes, Chinese college kids whose parents thought that their cute little Bo or BingBing needs their own dwelling place during their studies, and escape artists who looked to illegally move otns of cash out of China and hopefully the entire clan as well.

And then the tech boom emerged and university programs especially at UToronto started to support incubation and entrepreneur schemes,many startups popped up all over the city, the US made it harder for foreign tech workers to stay in the US so those workers made their way to Toronto.

Aside those two big issues to my knowledge nothing major occurred in Toronto in particular that explains the way out of norm rise in real estate over the past 15 years. Please add your factors if you find I missed any.

The Toronto market isn't dependent on "Chinese money".
 
Can you explain the concept of strip clubs actually? Because I don't get it and never did. Is it for the guys who just wanna do a bit of shades of gray yet claim they were still faithful to the wife or what is it? Surely nobody can claim they got off or had a great time just because a paid chick rubbed their thighs for a few bucks? I get that prostitution is illegal in the US and I don't morally support it, but someone who goes to a strip club I guess has no issues to shag a hooker either. Go to Vegas or go vice. But strip club? Lame as shit.

They have male clubs as well.
 
I did not mean to imply that Toronto real estate is entirely driven by Chinese money. If I implied that or said it outright then I apologize. I think a second large driver is the arrival of a lot of tech talent in the city. Why was Toronto really cheap about 1-2 decades ago. Toronto real estate did not stand out in any meaningful way. Yet as soon as the Chinese started to invade Canada, New Zealand, and Australia then urban real estate started to pop and priced out many locals. That Chinese money was a mix of pure foreign investments for diversification purposes, Chinese college kids whose parents thought that their cute little Bo or BingBing needs their own dwelling place during their studies, and escape artists who looked to illegally move otns of cash out of China and hopefully the entire clan as well.

If you are going to bullshit, at least don't BS in the same thread. LOL. Can't even keep the story straight! Not that she is. @GRULSTMRNN

No? A shit home in Vancouver for 1.5-2 million cad is not bubble? I assess the fair value at around 500-600k,given its metro Vancouver. All else is hyped up property valuations by Chinese and techies. But that's what supply and demand is pricing those junkyards at,

So, would you buy today? Do you expect further Chinese money to make its way to Vancouver and Toronto? Are you confident that China won't succeed with controlling capital outflows from China? Are you positive that the local population and BC government will not further tighten laws to limit foreign purchases as soon as demand picks up again?
 
Upon reading my posts again I don't think I need to apologize. I clearly mentioned Chinese AND techies (technology/IT people) pretty early on as causes. Hence I never singled out Chinese as the only culprit

The Toronto market isn't dependent on "Chinese money".
 
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