Americans ‘Hooked’ on Government Benefits

Quote from Random.Capital:

That would be true if the taxes collected for SSN were actually saved. But they weren't, they were spent. Worse, they were spent on things that eventual SSN beneficiaries have been directly benefiting from.

That is the practical definition of double-dipping.

So yes, it is perfectly fair to put future SSN payments in the category of benefits.
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The fact that congress embezzled the money does not change the fact that those dollars were taken from us for one purpose and one purpose only, which is to provide a retirement income. Yes, we get a poor return on our money and that too is not our fault. A criminally corrupt congress is a fault.
 
Quote from Zr1Trader:

Seems like the "tit of the government" had flopped out for everybody to suck on after this point and it has been down hill as far as handouts go ever since.
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This is what the Democrats have had in the works for 50+ years and they may have already gotten us soooo far that we cannot turn around the ship..who knows thou. I think we are toast.

That article above citing that 60%+ of guberment outlays are to benefits inwhich the gubernment gets no service from. How fucking sad is that?? Yes, some of this has been paid in (SS, Medicare), but even those funds have been raped and pillaged by the politicians for their greedy little hands.

It's all very upsetting...considering we are having to fight for our lives currently with the FTT coming from the liberal union thugs and European socialists. The same people who got us in the socialism mindset and sucking on the tit of the gubernmnet....they want more and more until it comes to a war!
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

The fact that congress embezzled the money does not change the fact that those dollars were taken from us for one purpose and one purpose only, which is to provide a retirement income. Yes, we get a poor return on our money and that too is not our fault. A criminally corrupt congress is a fault.
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While I'd have no problem lynching congress for crimes against it's citizenry. Even making the punishment retroactive to all pertinent previous congressmen.
If the SS money is spent/gone, seems to me we have to deal with that reality. Even if it's not fair to those of us who've been paying into the broken system for decades.
 
,there is a serious lack of sherriffs in washington,everyone has there hand in the til,maybe if we start prosecuting the prosecutors,they will get off their ass
 
Quote from Lucrum:

While I'd have no problem lynching congress for crimes against it's citizenry. Even making the punishment retroactive to all pertinent previous congressmen.
If the SS money is spent/gone, seems to me we have to deal with that reality. Even if it's not fair to those of us who've been paying into the broken system for decades.
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I agree! I'll make the sacrifice that the current reality dictates, right after I see them swinging from a tree. The criminals must be punished first before we talk about rehab for their victims.
 
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The fact that congress embezzled the money...
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Congress didn't embezzle anything - they did exactly what voters insisted they do - spend all of it, and then some, on the Now, leaving nothing forthe Future.

Nothing is going to change until voters stop blaming everyone else, and take a long hard look in the mirror.
 
Quote from Random.Capital:

Congress didn't embezzle anything - they did exactly what voters insisted they do - spend all of it, and then some, on the Now, leaving nothing forthe Future.

Nothing is going to change until voters stop blaming everyone else, and take a long hard look in the mirror.
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Wrong! Your vote is meaningless when the choice is criminal one, or criminal two. Voters have no voice and haven't had for decades. The criminals do as they will.
 
Quote from PocketChange:

Reality is US has a long standing Social contract with its citizens: Social Security, Medicare and many other benefits.

American's retirement funds are invested in Government sanctioned schemes and every transaction you engage in is generally taxed.

Welfare, Food stamps, unemployment benefits cost a fraction of the funds used to bail out / prop up foreign banks and the funds get injected into the local economy.

Whose sucking on whose tit? Government employs 40% of the US work force (Military state, federal, and prime contractors). How about the 40% that work for our govt?

How an you compare $10000 in aid provided to a real person to $1T paid in bail outs? What about every dime paid in foreign aid? Who is paying for us to police the world?

I think it sucks that people are out of work and having to rely on govt hand outs to survive. NAFTA, Outsourcing, Free Trade just means our standards of living will average down to the levels of the rest of the world.
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and you beleive our standard of living should be perpetually higher than the rest of the world based on what? Do we have more resources that the rest of the world? If so, that would make sense.
 
Quote from CaptainObvious:

Depends how you define benefit. SSN is not a benefit as we are taxed to pay for it, and our employers pay into it which is lost wages for the employee. Same with unemployment. Employers are taxed to pay for it and that money is lost wages for the employee. So-called "Veterans benefits" are definitively not benefits. Those of us that are veterans paid in spades for any education or health-care services provided to veterans.
A benefit would go to someone like Trump. A guy pretending to be a corporation who continually runs his business into the ground, and then get's to "reorganize" to do it all over again. Now that's a benefit!
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you're so stupid you aren't even worth talking to, but please tell me how does a guy get a government benefit for running businesses into the ground and reorganizing them? Don't even bother answering because you never know what you are talking about.
 
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