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American Military Admits TO WARCRIMES RAPE AND MURDER TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!
- Thread starter mahram
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Quote from acronym:
When was the last time anyone was executed for treason, indahook?
If a law isn't equitable, then it's worthless.
I honestly do not know.
I`m not familiar with military law. But I hope the proceeding would occur along something like this.
Military trial - dishonorable discharge - civilian trial for murder in the guilty partys home state or at the Hague under a war crimes tribunal.
The real point here is not about the truth of the incident. Itâs about how journalists, and its army of traitors (anonymous "officials") in government make military incidents bigger than life as a means to influence foreign policy by stirring it up long before government is prepared to make any statements about it.
And when they are ready to make the statements they have to be apologetic and on the defensive. What really injures the âIraqi people as a whole,â is not the incident, but the spectacle we make about the incident, as it supports the propaganda that military incidents are the rule and not the exception.
So, once again, what has more influence on propaganda? Government or our single-minded pack of journalists?
At least most Americans are wising up to this. They made Abu Ghraib bigger than life to get us out of Iraq. That failed. They made Club-Gitmo a Gulag from hell. That went nowhere. They made civilian skirmishes out to be an Iraqi Civil War. LOL; that failed too. This incident will be another dead-cat bounce, like Haditha.
And when they are ready to make the statements they have to be apologetic and on the defensive. What really injures the âIraqi people as a whole,â is not the incident, but the spectacle we make about the incident, as it supports the propaganda that military incidents are the rule and not the exception.
So, once again, what has more influence on propaganda? Government or our single-minded pack of journalists?
At least most Americans are wising up to this. They made Abu Ghraib bigger than life to get us out of Iraq. That failed. They made Club-Gitmo a Gulag from hell. That went nowhere. They made civilian skirmishes out to be an Iraqi Civil War. LOL; that failed too. This incident will be another dead-cat bounce, like Haditha.
Quote from Sam123:
This incident will be another dead-cat bounce, like Haditha.
Very disrespectful and flippant statement, IMO. An American serviceman murdered a 5 year old child. Who gives a f**k how it plays in the media, whether it will be a 'dead cat bounce' or not.
Sam, I didn't know you were another conservative frothing and ranting about the media. It's all the GODDAMN MEDIA. Everything is the GODDAMN MEDIA'S fault.
Disappointed, man.
EDIT: Just did a search of your posts and I see that media conspiracy theories are a bit of a pet subject for you. Carry on.
Sam,
How differently should the media have covered this "incident" (as you call it)?
How differently should the media have covered this "incident" (as you call it)?
Iâm not condoning these incidents, but unlike you, I have perspective. Unfortunate, yes, but they should have little influence on our policies.
By the way, I never talked about a âconspiracyâ in media. I never said people in media all get together and map plans to undermine the war effort. I talked about how people in Journalism are indoctrinated the same way in college, causing them to think and interpret things in the same narrow way. An industry full of people believing, acting and reacting the same way is not a conspiracy.
By the way, I never talked about a âconspiracyâ in media. I never said people in media all get together and map plans to undermine the war effort. I talked about how people in Journalism are indoctrinated the same way in college, causing them to think and interpret things in the same narrow way. An industry full of people believing, acting and reacting the same way is not a conspiracy.
Quote from traderNik:
Very disrespectful and flippant statement, IMO. An American serviceman murdered a 5 year old child. Who gives a f**k how it plays in the media, whether it will be a 'dead cat bounce' or not.
Sam, I didn't know you were another conservative frothing and ranting about the media. It's all the GODDAMN MEDIA. Everything is the GODDAMN MEDIA'S fault.
Disappointed, man.
EDIT: Just did a search of your posts and I see that media conspiracy theories are a bit of a pet subject for you. Carry on.
Quote from reg:
Bombs aren't so good? Maybe you should get Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's opinion on that.
LMAO!
acronym - are you mahram hiding behind an alias?
In short, no.
How dare you affront my nic with such a treacherous allegation.
How long did it take, for this targeted bombing to be "effective"?
I should point out, Zarqawi wasn't IN AFGHANISTAN, and that treason, under most international laws, would be impossible to substantiate or prove, whichever way you slice the cake of petroleum spoils.
Quote from Sam123:
Iâm not condoning these incidents, but unlike you, I have perspective. Unfortunate, yes, but they should have little influence on our policies.
By the way, I never talked about a âconspiracyâ in media. I never said people in media all get together and map plans to undermine the war effort. I talked about how people in Journalism are indoctrinated the same way in college, causing them to think and interpret things in the same narrow way. An industry full of people believing, acting and reacting the same way is not a conspiracy.
Try reviewing my statements in this very thread. I have already said that atrocities are going to occur in war, and indahook provided an explanation of what happens when unseen enemies a few yards away are trying to kill you.
I see you failed to respond to the main point of my post - that is, to suggest that this will be another 'dead-cat bounce' trivializes the most important part about it - the human part. This was never something that was going to influence policy - it's an aberration. Relating it to the massive media plot you believe in is disingenuous at best. It doesn't make any difference whether it lasts 1 day or 1 month in the media. This isn't the first atrocity from Iraq, nor will it be the last. In this case it is even less about the global left-wing media conspiracy you believe in because as I have said, this was the isolated act of a serviceman who apparently had serious enough mental health issues that he had been discharged (this is what I understand, someone can correct me if I'm wrong). There is no suggestion that the Steven Green case suggests an institutional problem.
You may not see this yet, but you have done what you charge the media types of doing - slanting a story to promote your own agendum.
Quote from acronym:
In short, no.
How dare you affront my nic with such a treacherous allegation.
How long did it take, for this targeted bombing to be "effective"?
I should point out, Zarqawi wasn't IN AFGHANISTAN, and that treason, under most international laws, would be impossible to substantiate or prove, whichever way you slice the cake of petroleum spoils.
You have gone off tangent and have become incoherent as far as your argument is concerned. You must have mistaken me for another poster since I never mentioned anything about treason in my posts on this thread.
In other words, I don't know what the f*ck you're talking about.
Is your medication working okay today?
Don't bother replying since I'm not interested in your response.
Man I have trouble with all this. Putting these young men in such a psychoogically twisting situation is the real crime. War is horrible and should only be entered when neccessary. Is funny to me that Republicans will justify the hell out of this war and call any objections to it as "not supporting the troops" same as they did Vietnam during Nixon Admin and as a group objected like hell to us entering World War II and have ever since cast accusations about Roosevelt "engineering" Pearl Harbor, etc. So they justify un-justifiable wars and object to justifiable wars solely on a partisan basis. They objected to our involvement in Bosnia "cause it was going to lead to another vietnam" and now justify the new vietnam. Plain and simple, Republicans redefine their positions as it suits their partisan needs same as they do with deficit spending etc. Maybe one day I will figure out why they do this.