American dependency on food stamps

[Lucrum]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

That's pretty much exactly what he's implying: that the cost of weeding out waste would be at or above the benefit in waste reduction.



Boggles the mind, doesn't it?

Normally it would, however considering it's coming from a guy who thinks Orlando has beaches....

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Ricter:

I did not say it "would" be, don't spin.

That's what you're arguing, isn't it? Or was your intent in this statement:

Quote from Ricter:

Identifying and cutting waste in any organization costs money. At a certain level of waste your control program ROI is breakeven.

simply to remind us of the completely obvious point that one could do overkill in monitoring waste?

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Ricter:

You're implying you know it's still cost effective to increase auditing; how do you know it, anecdotes?

YOU said auditing. WE are talking about efficiently run programs in the first place.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

YOU said auditing. WE are talking about efficiently run programs in the first place.

How does one know they're efficient or not without the use of metrics?

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

That's what you're arguing, isn't it? Or was your intent in this statement:

simply to remind us of the completely obvious point that one could do overkill in monitoring waste?

The video you linked to is sensationalistic and does not leave one with the impression there is sufficient monitoring, rather, it intends to imply the opposite.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Ricter:

The video you linked to is sensationalistic and does not leave one with the impression there is sufficient monitoring, rather, it intends to imply the opposite.

It's sensationalistic because you automatically brush off anything that makes "your team" look bad, instead of accepting that there are real problems that need solutions. As for it implying that there is not sufficient monitoring, I agree. It does imply that, and that IS the problem, and the crux of my argument. It needs to be better monitored.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Ricter:

How does one know they're efficient or not without the use of metrics?

Because random samples of blatant fraud and waste continue to bubble to the surface. This indicates that there is a real big problem underneath the surface (the so called "there is never just one roach" problem).

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Ricter:

How does one know they're efficient or not without the use of metrics?

We're talking federal government programs genius. I no more need "metrics" to know they're grossly inefficient and wasteful than I need "metrics" to tell me that shit stinks.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

Because random samples of blatant fraud and waste continue to bubble to the surface. This indicates that there is a real big problem underneath the surface (the so called "there is never just one roach" problem).

"FS usage up 40%!
"Record number of citizens on food stamps!
"More people than ever on food stamps (redundant)!

"But look at this guy, he doesn't want to work!!


Therefore FS fraud has grown disproportionately? Not necessarily.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from Ricter:

"FS usage up 40%!
"Record number of citizens on food stamps!
"More people than ever on food stamps (redundant)!

"But look at this guy, he doesn't want to work!!


Therefore FS fraud has grown disproportionately? Not necessarily.

FS usage IS up 40%. Record number of citizens ARE on food stamps. They ARE at all-time highs. I'm sorry if those facts don't tell the story you want them to, but they are alarming and need to be carried to the public - even when the main stream media does not want to.

As for whether fraud has grown or grown disproportionately, who knows? That isn't the point. The point is that there is blatant fraud and you can find examples of it everywhere. Different examples.

The only people who can claim SNAP is being run at peak performance - or even in the same solar system as "peak performance" are complete and total idiots, partisan clowns, or folks just trolling for responses. Which one are you, Ricter?