American companies are hereby ordered to immediately start looking for an alternative to China,

The middle class and poor buy cheap shit because that is what they can afford. It was said a few times already.

The rich can afford to waste the cheap shit they buy along with the expensive shit they buy. The middle class and poor can't.
 
Trump is emphatically not correct.

See for example Wiki's fine article, and many many others available on the net, on "Balance of Trade."

A few excerpts:

from Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations:
In the foregoing part of this chapter I have endeavoured to show, even upon the principles of the commercial system, how unnecessary it is to lay extraordinary restraints upon the importation of goods from those countries with which the balance of trade is supposed to be disadvantageous.
Nothing, however, can be more absurd than this whole doctrine of the balance of trade, upon which, not only these restraints, but almost all the other regulations of commerce are founded.

from Wiki:
The notion that bilateral trade deficits are bad in and of themselves is overwhelmingly rejected by trade experts and economists.

from Foreign Policy, 3 (2017):
Gramer, Robbie. "Economists Take Aim at Trump Trade Theory -- Again."

"Navarro’s comments drew skepticism from trade experts and economists across the political spectrum, who said that line of thinking on economics was flawed. Economists say trade deficits aren’t an indication of good or bad economic times, but rather a function of savings and investments. (The United States enjoyed a stellar trade surplus during the Great Depression in the 1930s, for example.) “He won’t find economists — either on the left or the right — that believe trade deficits are this huge a problem,” Chip Roh, a former assistant U.S. trade representative and trade lawyer, told Foreign Policy. “It doesn’t make economic sense.” “When economists hear, ‘Our goal is reduce the trade deficit,’ it baffles us,” Gordon Hanson, a trade economist at the University of California, San Diego, told FP. “He’s either using it as a cheap political ploy or there’s a misconception — he doesn’t understand how it operates.”
Don't want to sound like a broken record, as I said a few times prior, I really don't understand high finance and fancy economic theory, all I know is if I borrow, I have to pay it back or go bankrupt. If I borrow to spend today, I will have less money to buy more in the future. I also know that saving, delay gratification will help me build wealth so I will have more tomorrow.

Why is a country different? If we buy more from the rest of the world, don't we have to pay them back, either by reducing our import from them in the future to balance things out, or have them buy up our assets? Either way we will be poorer tomorrow?

The economists said, Ah, but we can print money, as long as they are willing to take our paper, why not? Where upon I say, I say the same about me, as long as the credit card companies keep lending to me, I am OK? But, one day the credit card companies stop and I go bankrupt. I think that happened to Argentina and Venezuela among others. You say but we are the great USA, we are the reserve currency! I say, until we are not. :finger:

Some of you will call me stupid idiot and put me on ignore.:p
 
Sunshine boy ...nighttime boy....things are not always as they seem. Mr T is building a great big economic engine that will run for decades.

Some weak looking things are really very strong. Like trading. Weak bars can sometimes be deceiving. Strong looking bars too can be deceiving.

Please remember what I am say. NO RECCESSION. CHINA WILL BLINK. USA WILL WIN. WORLD WILL BE ENVIOUS AGAIN..LIKE IT USED TO. JOBS AND MANUFACTURING WILL COME BACK. LIBERALS WILL CRY. GLOBALIST WILL WEEP. PROGRESSIVES (rather regressives) WILL WAIL...THE DEPLORABLE WILL BECOME THE LOVEABLES. THE SUN WILL SHINE IN FLORIDA. THE OVERNIGHT WILL BECOME BRIGHT AS A SUN SHINY DAY.

Cheer up my friends things ARE getting better not worse.
 
Trump is smart. You have to remember he's getting the best advice possible on these issues.

Culturally, the Chinese aren't interested in win-win propositions with non-Chinese. They are only interested in doing business with you if they see an opportunity to take everything you have, eventually.

If they don't respect or recognise your intellectual property rights and they have a significant competitive advantage in manufacturing, how can you win?

There's really no option but to stop doing business with China.
 
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You are worse than illiterate if you believe that crap.

Are you saying all modern economists and modern economic school are crap?
Take some education courses before you ignorantly judge modern sciences.

Also read piezoe's post in this thread, where he quoted modern economics view on trump's tariff.

Also if you ever received higher education, ( which it seems you didn't),
read what economics textbooks and economic theories say about tariff.

What I quoted, which you called "carp", are only repeat of what are on economics textbooks and economic theories.
 
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Trump is smart. You have to remember he's getting the best advice possible on these issues.

Culturally, the Chinese aren't interested in win-win propositions with non-Chinese. They are only interested in doing business with you if they see an opportunity to take everything you have, eventually.

If they don't respect or recognise your intellectual property rights and they have a significant competitive advantage in manufacturing, how can you win?

There's really no option but to stop doing business with China.
I’m all for the trade war, but didn’t Trump go against his advisors for further tariff hikes:
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/04/tru...lap-tariffs-on-remaining-chinese-imports.html

*Yes, it is CNBC*
 
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