American Billionaire Avoids Multiple Rape Charges

[jem]

Why should I care what the Talmud says about Jesus. Jesus has some very harsh words for the Pharisees. He said they legalism stood between Jews and God. he called them hypocrites in public and wrecked all their commerce in the temple.

I am sure they were pissed. I am not concerned about that stuff. I would be concerned if Rabbi's were saying that I must convert or that it is okay to kill me.

 

[Publisher]

Quote from jem:

Why should I care what the Talmud says about Jesus. Jesus has some very harsh words for the Pharisees. He said they legalism stood between Jews and God. he called them hypocrites in public and wrecked all their commerce in the temple.

I am sure they were pissed. I am not concerned about that stuff. I would be concerned if Rabbi's were saying that I must convert or that it is okay to kill me.

Jews, in an opportunistic fashion, try to cover up their Talmudic hatred for Christ, because they don't want to lose their 30,000,000 braindead Christian Zionist supporters. The latter, well known for their sheep-like mentality, until "slaughtered" by their Jewish masters, will believe that god loves one of his sons, the jews, more than the others - ignorant of the fact that they lost the Lords "preference" when they broke the covenant by refusing to accept Christianity.

 

[dpt]

Quote from Publisher:

http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8383.html
Now Princeton professors are going to be called anti-Semites aswell?

Ridiculous.

`Publisher' is the only one who is being called on his
antisemitism here.

He has already demonstrated that the charge is true beyond any
question by his own words.

He repeats lies and falsehoods, in a transparent effort to smear `the Jews.'

When I spoke of hatred, I meant the hatred your
religion

`Publisher' is obviously completely incapable of logic.

Here's a hint: I have no religion. I'm an atheist.

This has always been the strongest argument against the
Talmud, and Jews have systematically tried to cover it
up.

This is just so much more, utterly unoriginal, antisemitic drivel.

One can, exactly similarly, examine the canonical Christian Gospels,
in particular the Gospel of John, and come to the equally strong
conclusion that Jesus is hostile towards `the Jews.'

In fact, it is apparent that many early Christians did come to
precisely that conclusion. See the Patristic literature, for example,
the writings of Athanasius, and Augustine, for early Christian opinion
on Jews and Judaism.

Given such a situation, and given that early Christians, who were
originally a sect of Judaism, as far as the Romans were concerned,
eventually gained political ascendancy in the Roman Empire it is
hardly surprising that there existed Jewish writers who were hostile
to Christianity, and that some of these writings were recorded in
the Talmud.

It is also no surprise that Jews at times made an effort to cover up
some of these hostile references, since they were regularly used by
antisemitic Christians as justification for persecution of Jewish
communities.

If you just admitted that the Talmud is hostile towards
Christ, that would give your religion a much more honest
reputation.

What, now `Publisher' asserts that the whole Talmud is hostile towards
Christ? He is a Talmudic scholar? Speaks Hebrew and Aramaic, and knows
the history of both Judaism and Christianity?

Here's a hint: It does not follow from anything `Publisher'
has `Published' that `the Talmud' is hostile towards Christ.

That is a totally unjustifiable generalization.

My argument is: If you want us "anti-Semites" to take your refutations
seriously, you should stop lieing about the defamation of Jesus in the
Talmud.

Your argument has already collapsed. You are simply intellectually unequipped for
this debate.

Where have I lied? Your repetition of these lines, with the clear
implication that they prove `the Jews' are hostile to Christ
is in itself a lie, and an effort to smear a whole people.

The reason I refered to "you" as if you were a religion is because, so
far, you have done everything in your might to defend the "devine"
religion of Hollywood.

Hollywood? Who said anything about Hollywood?

Perhaps you should ask your sister-in-faith Madonna what she thinks
about Christianity? I'd say she represents the Talmud quite
well.

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`Publisher has become completely unhinged.

Rearden Metal was right: He should seek medical attention urgently.

Madonna is apparently a lapsed Catholic, and has an interest in
Kabbalah. Good for her. This is all irrelevant. The fact is that `Publisher' is
the one spewing vile antisemitic propaganda across this website.

Where's the promised apology?

 

[acronym]

Publisher, give up while your behind, your giving stupid a bad name.

 

[Rearden Metal]

Quote from dpt:

What a fucking moron.

`The Talmud' is a vast document. There's more than one Talmud
for a start.

A few quotes translated into English tell you absolutely nothing
whatsoever. It takes a lifetime of study, as well as deep knowledge of
Hebrew and Aramaic, and of Jewish society of the first four centuries
CE to begin to find a way into the Talmud.

Let's examine just one of these `quotes', and add back a little
of the context which was purposefully removed in order to distort the
meaning.



The underlying discussion in which this quotation comes up is an
argument between Rabbis over the marital property rights of women
who are virgins, versus the property rights of women who are not
virgins. Under halakhah virgins have greater rights than
non-virgins. So the specific question arises: `What if a woman has
been raped at a young age? Is she considered to be a virgin under the law?'

The answer is yes, a woman who was raped as a child (under the
age of three) is considered to be a virgin. The rape IS AS
NOTHING with respect to her marital rights.

IS AS NOTHING is a common formula in Talmudic discussions,
which always means that the speaker is of the opinion that the
matter has no bearing on the subject under discussion.

The statement IS AS NOTHING does not mean that it is
permissible for a grown man to have intercourse with a young
child.

A fuller quotation including context will serve to clarify the
meaning somewhat.




The rest of the quotations are similar distortions and lies.

To sum up, and repeat what is becoming more and more obvious with
every new post he makes: `Publisher' is a vile, lying, skinhead,
neo-Nazi Jew-hater, who spews filthy antisemitic propaganda across
this website.

He is a waste of bandwidth and a waste of oxygen.

It would be well worth finding out who he is
and publishing it.

Of course, he is too much of a coward to ever publish his name.

Thank you for taking the time to set the record straight.

 

[jem]

Quote from Publisher:

Jews, in an opportunistic fashion, try to cover up their Talmudic hatred for Christ, because they don't want to lose their 30,000,000 braindead Christian Zionist supporters. The latter, well known for their sheep-like mentality, until "slaughtered" by their Jewish masters, will believe that god loves one of his sons, the jews, more than the others - ignorant of the fact that they lost the Lords "preference" when they broke the covenant by refusing to accept Christianity.

Your last sentence about losing God's preference seems to allude to replacement theology. That is very Roman Catholic of you. Do you agree with the statement there is no salvation outside the Church.

"Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus"

wikipedia does a pretty good job explaining the doctrine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replacement_theology#_note-2

 

[Publisher]

Quote from dpt:



What, now `Publisher' asserts that the whole Talmud is hostile towards
Christ? He is a Talmudic scholar? Speaks Hebrew and Aramaic, and knows
the history of both Judaism and Christianity?

From the earliest days of Christianity, Jewry became its leading persecutor, as the Pharisees saw the Christian salvation of both “Jews and Greeks” as a threat to their purity and supremacism. It should be said that Judaism is also diametrically opposed to the Muslim faith, which like Christianity also has been interpreted as a universal message. Not only did Jewish supremacists oppose Jesus himself, they mercilessly persecutedhis followers, the early Christians.

Yet for fear of the Jews no one spoke openly of him (John 7:13)[14]

. . .for you suffered like things of your own countrymen as they did from the Jews, who killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and drove us out and displease God, and oppose all men (1 Thessalonians 2:14-16)

I will quote several "Talmudic Scholars", and for some reason, they are completely in agreement with my interpretation of the Babylonian Talmud. But, I guess they are just anti-Semites disguised as Jews...



Chabad and other Jewish rabbis frequently author columns in the largest Jewish newspaper in the United States, Jewish Week. In this paper you will find supremacist attitudes that any decent human being would call horrific. Examine the following quote:

As for the goyim…Zalman’s attitude (was): “Gentile souls are of a completely different and inferior order. They are totally evil, with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.” …If every simple cell in a Jewish body entails divinity, is a part of God, then every strand of DNA is a part of God. Therefore, something is special about Jewish DNA. …

If a Jew needs a liver, can you take the liver of an innocent non-Jew passing by to save him? The Torah would probably permit that. Jewish life has an infinite value,” he explained. “There is something infinitely more holy and unique about Jewish life than non-Jewish life. – Chabad Lubavitch Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburgh in Jewish Week, the largest Jewish publication in the United States.

- This Statement was made by a leading Lubavitch Rabbi named Yitshak Ginsburgh and it can be found in the April 26, 1996 Jewish Week.

The following quotes are taken from a book of his recorded messages to followers in Israel, titled "Gatherings of Conversations" by Rabbi Schneerson and published in Israel in 1965. During the subsequent three decades of his life until his death, Rabbi Schneerson remained consistent; he did not change any of the opinions. What Rabbi Schneerson taught became official, Lubavitch-Hassidic doctrine. Regarding the non-Jew the Lubovitcher Rebbe’s views were clear:

The difference between a Jewish and a non-Jewish person stems from the common expression: “Let us differentiate.” Thus, we do not have a case of profound change in which a person is merely on a superior level. Rather, we have a case of “let us differentiate” between totally different species. This is what needs to be said about the body: the body of a Jewish person is of a totally different quality from the body of [members] of all nations of the world …

…An even greater difference exists in regard to the soul. Two contrary types of soul exist, a non-Jewish soul comes from three satanic spheres, while the Jewish soul stems from holiness.

We therefore ask: Why should a non-Jew be punished if he kills even a non-Jewish embryo while a Jew should not be punished even if he kills a Jewish embryo? The answer can be understood by [considering] the general difference between Jews and non-Jews: A Jew was not created as a means for some [other] purpose; he himself is the purpose, since the substance of all [divine] emanations was created only to serve the Jews.”

-Chabad Lubavitch Rabbis in the white house.

You will look in vain in the popular mass media or in political circles for any serious condemnation of Jewish supremacism. In fact, George Bush actually issued a statement on June 27, 2006 honoring the memory of the Great Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson. Every U.S. President since Rabbi Schneerson’s death has honored this extreme Jewish supremacist. Here is a direct quote from the Jewish Telegraph Agency (JTA) reporting on the honoring of Rabbi Schneerson and showing their influence on American policy.

White House to Chabad: Bush won’t press Israel

The Bush administration will not force Israel into unilateral concessions, top White House officials told representatives of the Lubavitch movement.

Chabad Lubavitch culminated a two-day commemoration of the 12th anniversary of Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson’s death with meetings Wednesday with Michael Chertoff, the Homeland Security secretary, and Joshua Bolten, the White House chief of staff. Both men are Jewish.

Bolten and other White House officials assured Chabad representatives that President Bush would never force Israel to concede territory to the Palestinians without a quid pro quo, participants said. Bolten said Bush would follow Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert’s lead in deciding what concessions to support

Source:http://www.shmais.com/pages.cfm?page=ArchiveNewsDetail&date_f=2006-6-29

Read the following words of Dr.Stephen Steinlight, one of the leading Jews in America, who wrote these comments in October of 2001. After reading them, read them again and again. Steinlight is no minor Jewish figure. He served for five years as the Director of National Affairs (domestic policy) in the most powerful and respected Jewish organization in the United States, the American Jewish Committee. Steinlight confesses the rampant Jewish supremacism and disloyalty to America that permeates the American Jewish community.

I’ll confess it, at least, like thousands of other typical Jewish kids of my generation, I was reared as a Jewish nationalist, even a quasi-separatist. Every summer for two months for 10 formative years during my childhood and adolescence I attended Jewish summer camp. There, each morning, I saluted a foreign flag, dressed in a uniform reflecting its colors, sang a foreign national anthem, learned a foreign language, learned foreign folk songs and dances, and was taught that Israel was the true homeland. Emigration to Israel was considered the highest virtue, and, like many other Jewish teens of my generation, I spent two summers working in Israel on a collective farm while I contemplated that possibility. More tacitly and subconsciously, I was taught the superiority of my people to the gentiles who had oppressed us. We were taught to view non-Jews as untrustworthy outsiders, people from whom sudden gusts of hatred might be anticipated, people less sensitive, intelligent, and moral than ourselves. We were also taught that the lesson of our dark history is that we could rely on no one.

As you can see, not just the bearded extremists of Chabad have have such supremacist sentiments.

I wait for our wannebe Yid-boy to show me that these are all "misquotes".

 

[Publisher]

Quote from jem:

Your last sentence about losing God's preference seems to allude to replacement theology. That is very Roman Catholic of you. Do you agree with the statement there is no salvation outside the Church.

"Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus"

wikipedia does a pretty good job explaining the doctrine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replacement_theology#_note-2

In any case, Most of the Jews of today came from a completely heathen background, a heathen tribe called the Khazars of Western Russia. They were not Semites, but were Turco-Mongoloid. They were converted to Judaism en masse in the 7th Century. This explains why most Jews are as white as snow. If you want further Jewish confirmation of this, I suggest you read Vol. IV, pages 1 to 5 in the Jewish Encyclopaedia.

The depiction of Jesus and his mother as white, Northern European Caucasians is creating serious confusion among Americans and Europeans. The real Jews are brown, not white. The white Ashkenazi Zionists are incorrect when they claim that their ancestors came from Palestine. Because of this fact, it's incorect to assume that 90% of World Jewry deserve the title of "Chosen People"

Furthermore, because the Zionists are not real Jews, criticizing their attempt to create Israel is not criticizing Jews. In fact, the Ashkenazi Jews outnumber the real Jews, and are discriminating against the real Jews in Israel.

-Khazaria is the nation just north of modern day Georgia.

 

[jem]

without more info - I would have to say so what.


Is there any evidence in the bible that the promises made to Abraham by God would not apply to people of Western Russian descent?

 

[fhl]

Note to publisher--
As a card carrying member of the Christian right, I can tell you that we are only concerned with what the bible says, not quotes you dig up from irrelevant (to us) sources. Anybody can say anything. Who cares.