America Was Founded On Conservative Principles... and operated that way for about 125 years

[Tsing Tao]

No, your friend is apparently convinced that the US is hopeless. He should act on his belief and seek refuge elsewhere. Unless, of course, we are not to take him seriously.

EDIT: See his immediately preceding post.

He's just venting. I picture him sitting on his porch in a rocking chair angrily reading the newspaper, telling the journalists that they're on IGNORE!!!1!

But this doesn't answer the question as to why those on the left who aren't happy with the US the way it is and are trying to change it don't- themselves - seek another place to live.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

America WILL collapse and start over... that's the "end game". But you wouldn't choose to live through it if you had a choice.

But you do have a choice. You can leave. Go exercise some of that free will of yours. (While you can! :eek

 

[Frederick Foresight]

He's just venting...

He does a lot of that. So much so, that he may well be considered an alternative energy source.

As to your question, I already answered it earlier.

 

[Ricter]

He's just venting. I picture him sitting on his porch in a rocking chair angrily reading the newspaper, telling the journalists that they're on IGNORE!!!1!
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LOL

 

[Scataphagos]

He's just venting. I picture him sitting on his porch in a rocking chair angrily reading the newspaper, telling the journalists that they're on IGNORE!!!1!

But this doesn't answer the question as to why those on the left who aren't happy with the US the way it is and are trying to change it don't- themselves - seek another place to live.

Of course the journalists should be "ON IGNORE"... They're Leftists, too.

I've often suggested Leftists should move to Venezuela, Cuba, N. Korea... anywhere where their presumed utopian lifestyle and government is already in place. But that wouldn't be any fun. All of those people are already oppressed and basically poor. America still has some wealth to grab and redistribute... THAT'S why they see America as needing "fundamental transformation".

 

[Ricter]

Of course the journalists should be "ON IGNORE"... They're Leftists, too.

I've often suggested Leftists should move to Venezuela, Cuba, N. Korea... anywhere where their presumed utopian lifestyle and government is already in place. But that wouldn't be any fun. All of those people are already oppressed and basically poor. America still has some wealth to grab and redistribute... THAT'S why they see America as needing "fundamental reformation".

You also believe America needs reforming. You just want it your way, not mine.

 

[Tsing Tao]

As to your question, I already answered it earlier.

Right, you said they're hoping to better the US. So they're really no different than Scat, apart from perhaps ranting less. The only difference is the definition of "better".

 

[Tsing Tao]

You also believe America needs reforming. You just want it your way, not mine.

I think "restoring" not "reforming". Restoring implies bring back to the way it was, while reforming is changing to what will be. I think this is the issue with most conservatives - they want the country they were born in while liberals are pushing to change it. It would seem logical that the people who were born here and liked it would stay, and those looking to "reform" it would leave to find a place more suitable for their liking. Of course, we know that will never happen, and the argument of "leave if you don't like it" is just a silly one.

 

[Scataphagos]

Right, you said they're hoping to better the US. So they're really no different than Scat, apart from perhaps ranting less. The only difference is the definition of "better".

Gee, you really think I "rant" that much? Seems few listen or "get it"... I'm thinking I should do more... not that it would do any good, of course. I don't want to make anybody do anything.... EXCEPT STOP DESTROYING WHAT WAS GOOD ABOUT AMERICA!

"Better" to me is the opposite of what the Leftists desire.

 

[Frederick Foresight]

Right, you said they're hoping to better the US. So they're really no different than Scat, apart from perhaps ranting less. The only difference is the definition of "better".

And the hope part, as compared to the hopeless part.