America is Burning

[johnnyrock]

Have you ever walked in their shoes? They have a very tough job, they could lose their life in a blink of an eye. Every traffic stop now could end up being their last. They're human beings too.
There's thousands and thousands of great cops out there working daily, and there's hardly some kind of wholesale warfare against the populace going on. You need to re-channel that anger Johnny. Somehow. jmho

My Father is a retired cop. My cousin works at a jail. My cousins husband is a small town cop.

I have not walked in their shoes, but I have lived around them and with them one thing they all agree on is not snitching on their brother. I have bought drugs and done business with gang members in my youth. That is gang mentality and the real reason we are in this situation.

There is a difference between being a snitch and a good citizen. A cop is charges with servinh the public,not protecting a criminal.

Just so everyone knows, I do not own a gun and I subscribe to the adage tht the pen is mightier than the sword. However, I am advocating violence on those who have violated others.

My way of dealing with my anger is to express myself. The police need to watch out for the warriors that our government trained. They not only have the mindset to do it, but the ability to carry it out.

 

[johnnyrock]

EXACTLY. It is positively stunning how logic seems to be lost on people today.

This isn't about race it's about unrestrained power with no accountability. You my think the debate is irrelevant,but your city is probably in chaos right now. If not many cities in America are. If there is no change, expect more if the same with the heat rising each time.

 

[smallfil]

Oh? So when johnny rock quotes the founding fathers and says "they would have rioted over this too" it is OK, but when I use them as an example, it is invalid. I see. A little one sided, aren't we?

Your outrage is also bit out of the time period. Did you also in your research uncover how many other countries practiced slavery during that time? I'm not supporting slavery, but as a society, we evolve. What is morally questionable or outright wrong now wasn't then. People were married as early as 12 or 13 years old back then. Now we'd go "WTF".

You can't apply a cookie cutter view of the world now to then.

He forgot how the Socialists like Stalin and Communists like Mao killed millions during their time just because they wanted to. That is dangerous on all levels because anyone disagreeing with someone with absolute power loses their right to live. Remember acts of brutality by one side is returned at some point by the other side who has been abused. Do not think just because you have some power that you are immune. Filipinos in the Philippines during World War 2 was brutalized by the Japanese Imperial Army but, got revenge in doses against Japanese they captured. It goes without saying.

 

[smallfil]

Lets say I believe your "hundreds" of videos and lets say all of them are different officers. Lets say also i believe that each one of your examples has 3 other officers letting it happen and lets say that accounts to approximately 1500 to 2000 bad officers in your examples. Lets say there are at least that many that don't get recorded and double the number to 4000, taking the higher of the estimate.

There are 800,000 active duty police officers in service today. You are advocating killing police officers because less than half of a percent of the work force is "dirty". Instead of advocating a reform to the justice system, or better training, or video cameras on every officer, etc. Kill them. That is your solution.

You still haven't told me what your world without the police looks like.

It would be very similar to the first 2 nights of the riots. People would be looting, destroying property, killing business owners trying to defend their businesses. In those 2 nights, police and national guard were just standing around while, everyone pillaged, burned and terrorized all law abiding citizens. No doubt ordered by Democrat Mayors and Governors to stand down. If there were no police, gun owners would have all come out and put down the rioters for the rabid animals they have become. It would have been over real quick.

 

[carrer]

I am not a supporter of this idea, but some out there do.

"A criminal is better to be dead than alive"
"A society would be a better place if there's no criminal"

 

[PintoFire]

A lot of what you learn about America is built on a double-standard. That's what I was trying to point out.

 

[Tsing Tao]

My Father is a retired cop. My cousin works at a jail. My cousins husband is a small town cop.

I have not walked in their shoes, but I have lived around them and with them one thing they all agree on is not snitching on their brother. I have bought drugs and done business with gang members in my youth. That is gang mentality and the real reason we are in this situation.

There is a difference between being a snitch and a good citizen. A cop is charges with servinh the public,not protecting a criminal.

Just so everyone knows, I do not own a gun and I subscribe to the adage tht the pen is mightier than the sword. However, I am advocating violence on those who have violated others.

My way of dealing with my anger is to express myself. The police need to watch out for the warriors that our government trained. They not only have the mindset to do it, but the ability to carry it out.

This is quite a different message than your advocating going out and killing police officers.

Now you're saying dirty cops should be targeted by trained insurgent personnel. I don't agree with this either, but it is a lot different statement.

 

[Tsing Tao]

This isn't about race it's about unrestrained power with no accountability. You my think the debate is irrelevant,but your city is probably in chaos right now. If not many cities in America are. If there is no change, expect more if the same with the heat rising each time.

Its not about any of that. It was initiated as a political ploy to create as much chaos as possible in the attempt to influence the elections. You're just being used like everyone else.

 

[johnnyrock]

He forgot how the Socialists like Stalin and Communists like Mao killed millions during their time just because they wanted to. That is dangerous on all levels because anyone disagreeing with someone with absolute power loses their right to live. Remember acts of brutality by one side is returned at some point by the other side who has been abused. Do not think just because you have some power that you are immune. Filipinos in the Philippines during World War 2 was brutalized by the Japanese Imperial Army but, got revenge in doses against Japanese they captured. It goes without saying.

Dude. Every legitimate government uses forcet quell the people. No doubt they killed millions.

But let's get this straight. Killing thousands of unarmed citizens is okay? If that's okay, killing hundreds of police is okay in my book.

 

[Tsing Tao]

A lot of what you learn about America is built on a double-standard. That's what I was trying to point out.

This is absolutely true. And it is one of the major structural problems in this country. But instead of pitting white against black (which is what the real criminals want) we should be focused on the proletariat class. But we're too distracted.