keep up your infantile ranting and this thread will end up there.
Alternatives to Keynes or Austerity
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keep up your infantile ranting and this thread will end up there.
Deficit spending is nothing more than a greedy government trying to "get something for nothing"... no different than a consumer running up his credit card balance and then refusing to pay..
"Government Debt" is NOT "fine in theory".. in the long run, it DOOMS TO BANKRUPTCY (and all of the negative consequences therefrom) all citizens under its influence.
"Not bankrupt in the US (yet)", you say? Just follow Zimbabwe's example.. also Turkey, Weimar Germany, Rome... Brasil's history.
Don't you think that when we are dissatisfied with our government, and particularly at times of excessive bickering between the parties, with little getting done because of it, we naturally bitch about it not making much difference which party is in charge -- that part being somewhat true-- and then moving on to conclude that there is not much difference between the parties? But that conclusion, I'm inclined to think, is a misconception?
Certainly when it comes to corruption, neither party is pure. Also with regard to policies that one can say in retrospect turned out to be a mistake, neither party can claim exemption.
The more I think about this issue of whether there really is a difference between Republicans and Democrats, however, I'm inclined to think that there actually is a big difference between core Republican and core Democrat philosophies, and between the way the Democrats would run the country versus the Republicans, were there suddenly no "loyal opposition".
Though it is popular to say so, I don't think we are being correct when we say there is no difference between the parties. It just seems that way when we spend an inordinate amount of time in Stalemate. But isn't the stalemate evidence of substantial differences? In fact, on reflection, it seems the differences are about as stark and as clearly drawn as at any time in the history of these two parties.
Piezoe,
A well written post, but I respectfully disagree.
I think the disparity between the right and left is exaggerated. Imo, both parties do this to market their brand as different than the other guy. Most of that is accomplished through hyperbole and fear-mongering, largely to scare independents and consolidate their base. But the differences are really trivial, and hardly noteworthy. Most come down to taxation. The Left wants higher taxes, but the Right wants less (but they run up the deficit and charge it on the national credit card, which is a future tax). That's it. Obamacare is a political football, but another redherring. The Feds already levy a national tax for social security and medicare. On the core issues of freedom, war, size and scope of Government, monetary policy, States Rights, there is virtually zero difference between Republican and Democrat. Both parties are big Government Statists. Both parties are HardCore Authoritarian. That's why the BIG ISSUES that speak to the core of individual liberty, freedom and prosperity NEVER get addressed by political heavyweights because the system is already massively top-heavy and run by the Federal Government, which is exactly how both sides want it. The dialogue is framed. It's a false choice. Both sides only give us false choices. You can either have a 25% Corporate tax rate, or 5000K less in mortgage deductions, and we're made to think one is a commie nightmare, and the other is "free market capitalism" at it's best. Think about it for a moment. Both Romney and Obama give lipservice to the ideas of freedom, individual rights, and capitalism all day, but never table or discuss any reform that would champion those ideals!!!!
Topics never discussed at any Presidential debate:
- End all bailouts, let Banks and business fail....you know? Capitalism??
- End all Corporate subsidies
- Abolish the Income/Corporate tax, get rid of the invasive IRS and wasteful tax code!
- Institute big tariffs against Chinda
- Deregulate the hell out of industry.
- Radically cut the size and scope of the Federal Government. Balance the budget NOW.
- Outlaw public employee unionization that's bled America dry.
- End all overseas occupation/wars, bring the troops home now
- Protect the border
- Begin deportation of illegals
- End the Drug War
- Repeal all Police State legislation, including the NDAA that both Romney and Obama support (indefinite military detention of American citizens without a trial or lawyer!).
- Begin massive entitlement reform, winding down these unconstitutional programs, and letting the States take care of their own. Cut off the parasites and U99ers.
- Return all other duties not afforded to the Federal Government, back to the States (education, medical, welfare etc).
Those are the real issues. They won't be touched because it means the Federal Government would surrender massive power back to the individual and State, and they loathe the thought of it!! Instead, we listen to debates about whether to use peanut butter or jam. Who gives a fuck. Rearranging deck chairs on the titanic! There's a reason why America is in terminal decline, with a crippling debtload. And it's not because we didnt have Obamacare 2 years ago or a 5% less income tax rate, 3 years ago! The "solutions" are ridiculous. Its all feel-good, jingoistic crap.
A well written post, but I respectfully disagree.
I think the disparity between the right and left is exaggerated. Imo, both parties do this to market their brand as different than the other guy. Most of that is accomplished through hyperbole and fear-mongering, largely to scare independents and consolidate their base. But the differences are really trivial, and hardly noteworthy. Most come down to taxation. The Left wants higher taxes, but the Right wants less (but they run up the deficit and charge it on the national credit card, which is a future tax). That's it. Obamacare is a political football, but another redherring. The Feds already levy a national tax for social security and medicare. On the core issues of freedom, war, size and scope of Government, monetary policy, States Rights, there is virtually zero difference between Republican and Democrat. Both parties are big Government Statists. Both parties are HardCore Authoritarian. That's why the BIG ISSUES that speak to the core of individual liberty, freedom and prosperity NEVER get addressed by political heavyweights because the system is already massively top-heavy and run by the Federal Government, which is exactly how both sides want it. The dialogue is framed. It's a false choice. Both sides only give us false choices. You can either have a 25% Corporate tax rate, or 5000K less in mortgage deductions, and we're made to think one is a commie nightmare, and the other is "free market capitalism" at it's best. Think about it for a moment. Both Romney and Obama give lipservice to the ideas of freedom, individual rights, and capitalism all day, but never table or discuss any reform that would champion those ideals!!!!
Topics never discussed at any Presidential debate:
- End all bailouts, let Banks and business fail....you know? Capitalism??
- End all Corporate subsidies
- Abolish the Income/Corporate tax, get rid of the invasive IRS and wasteful tax code!
- Institute big tariffs against Chinda
- Deregulate the hell out of industry.
- Radically cut the size and scope of the Federal Government. Balance the budget NOW.
- Outlaw public employee unionization that's bled America dry.
- End all overseas occupation/wars, bring the troops home now
- Protect the border
- Begin deportation of illegals
- End the Drug War
- Repeal all Police State legislation, including the NDAA that both Romney and Obama support (indefinite military detention of American citizens without a trial or lawyer!).
- Begin massive entitlement reform, winding down these unconstitutional programs, and letting the States take care of their own. Cut off the parasites and U99ers.
- Return all other duties not afforded to the Federal Government, back to the States (education, medical, welfare etc).
Those are the real issues. They won't be touched because it means the Federal Government would surrender massive power back to the individual and State, and they loathe the thought of it!! Instead, we listen to debates about whether to use peanut butter or jam. Who gives a fuck. Rearranging deck chairs on the titanic! There's a reason why America is in terminal decline, with a crippling debtload. And it's not because we didnt have Obamacare 2 years ago or a 5% less income tax rate, 3 years ago! The "solutions" are ridiculous. Its all feel-good, jingoistic crap.
because its not reality and its not going to happen and if it did some of them would cause disaster. thinking people prefer to start with reality and work from there.
America was built on those libertarian principles, you moron.
Seriously, you're the biggest idiot on these boards. People see you as a joke.
we aint going back to 1776 dumbass. use you brain.
America followed those principles until the early 20th century, you retard. That's a full 130 years, from a tiny colony, to the worlds greatest industrial power. Anyway, you're not even qualified to discuss economics. You have no understanding.
we aint going back to 1900 either. use some common sense. why do so many of you nutters find a home on et. is there something in the water around here?
The LORD required a debt jubilee from Israel every 7 years.
He also did not permit them to lend to each other at interest.
And what is the fundamental source of "the business cycle"?
Is it not the usery based money we all must use?