Almost everyone is lying. Because there's no such...

From reading your post, I can tell you know what you are doing. :thumbsup:

Do have one question for you: Why shouldn't I write my own backtesting algo? I have been trying to write and backtest with my own algo since 2013.

Most coders wins billions in backtests. Everyone did this little mistake. So one simple wrong shift can cause this. That's why I always suggest to you use a better backtesting softwares with a reliable data.
 
Don't be so sure.

No worries. I'm sure about that. One can not make billions or even illions by trading their own money. I'm especially talking about forex. OP is 100% right. They are stealing people's dreams and give them hope! No need to do this.

If you are good enough, you can get funded. You can not become billionaire.
 
One can not make billions or even millions by trading their own money. ...... You can not become billionaire.

So, a trader's starting balance has no effect on how much they can make? Someone who starts with millions cannot make millions? :)
 
So, a trader's starting balance has no effect on how much they can make? Someone who starts with millions cannot make millions? :)

Ah of course i didn't mean that :) and also, it doesn't mean "making millions". You already have one :)
 
Hi

I'm a coder and data scientist. I have been working on trading for over 2 years. Spent lots of money. Every trainer i have paid lies. Because, there's no profitable system. If there's, nobody will teach you what it's. Trading is a zero-sum game. Your odds are same in Vegas. There's no such profitable trading system.

For example:

ForexSignals - Andrew Lockwood
He claims he's trader but i have never seen his real account. He make money by selling products.

Warrior Trading - Ross Cameron
Ross claims he made $500 to $100K in 45 days or so. He has a new challenge and he claims he made 1 million but it took years. If he could make $500 - $100K, why not keep doing the same? If you can not trade with a lot of money, you can still trade with $500. All he teaches is how to trade flag breakouts.

Warrior Trading - Steve Dahl
Steve Dahl is a showman. He claims he's trading. He never shows his statements. He says something like it's against the rules. All he's doing is, marketing his product TAS Market profile. His stoploss is like 250 - 350. Not for every trader. He trades trades futures (!).

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And here are some so called profitable strategies...

Order Flow Trading
There's no such thing. You can see supply and demand (support / resistance). However, price is never overbought or oversold. Price is always right. There are anomalies but they are not easy to see. There's 50% probability that S/R will be broken or bounce. You can never know if someone going to click on the market buy/sell button.

Price Action
Even my random chart generator does have price action. It's all random and there are trends...

High Probability Chart Patterns
Nope! HS, engulf, pin bar... All of them tested. Your chance is still less than 50%

Trading Algos
They are not fake and profitable until they become losers. Most of profitable algos risk 4 or more to get 1. One day, they will lose all the money

Backtesting #1
I have coded a random trade simulator. This script enters a trade randomly. 1:1 RRR and traded more than 10.000 (simulated). However, system never but never won more than 49%. (no spread or commissions calculated). You can say, if there's 50% probability, how come system can not win %50? Of course it can not win. We have stop-loss at the same range. Sometimes, market stops us and goes back to target.

Backtesting #2
I have created a simple moving average strategy and put the script in a loop to find the best matched values. After a few hours, i had enough data and plots. However, i strongly believe that, winning algos will lose by time. Everything changes. They worked in the past and it doesn't necessarily means that it's going to work in the future.

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Market is always right. It goes, where it wants to. We can never know the future. Some says, we don't know or predict future. We see and trade "now". It's not true. "Now" is the future. All you see is the historical data. Our brain is used to perceive positive things. That's why it looks so easy. It's not!

There's no scientific study that proves trading is profitable. Come on guys. Really? Don't you think that there are profs trying to find some scientific evidence? Don't tell me about momentum. It's all luck... That's it.

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Everyone says aim for 1%-2% return per month. Lol! How can you trade for living? Assuming that you need at least 3-4K per month. So you simply need 300-400K account to make 3-4K per month.

I know there are trainers here. Please stop stealing peoples dreams. Most of you claim that your course is not get rich quick scheme but it's. You are advertising like it's.

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Nobody can have 50% win rate with 1:2 RRR consistently. I'm almost sure about that. Here's the simulations i have done.

Initial balance: 10K,

Risk 1%, win-rate: 50%, rrr: 2, simulated 500 trades (~2 per day)
Results: 114509.51, 77677.79, 92915.19, 241527.18 etc...
if Risk is 2% result is something like 2,513,901.02... x250 in a year!

Risk 1%, win-rate: 40%, rrr: 2, simulated 500 trades (~2 per day)
Results: 42756.02, 34693.05, 23534.11, 36827.51

If you have a system 1:2 rrr system and your win rate is 50%, you are lying or you are lying. Because we both know that you don't have such thing.

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Now why am i writing all these? Because i have started to find some patterns 2 years ago with hope. I was almost sure that i could do this. Hundreds of times, i tought i became millionaire. But there were always bug in the system. Failed tens of hundreds of times. Most of my trades stopped by a few ticks only or missed by a few ticks.

I'm working on this for 2 years and i have nothing left. It's like addiction. I know i will not be able to profitable but i'm still on it. Even if i can find a profitable strategy i will not be able to trade because no more balance left to trade. Actually I have found one. But it's all historical... It worked last 10 years and i doubt it will work tomorrow.

I know i know, most of you will call me loser and get mad at me. You are right. I'm a loser. I accept in advance and still love you. This is just my opinions. Like everyone says, these are not financial advice :)

Now i can go in peace...
DeadTrader,

Let me say this as I do not know what to tell you.

Open a chart and trade with your own eyes day to day. Atleast you know what you see on the chart is not lying.
 
Most coders wins billions in backtests. Everyone did this little mistake. So one simple wrong shift can cause this. That's why I always suggest to you use a better backtesting softwares with a reliable data.
I couldn't use typical backtesting software to test the strategies and structures I was interested in.
 
i made 5mm in two days of trading es500 futures at member clearing rates, my max risk was 330k which happened the first 2 hours of the first day. but i am not selling anything but i will tell you i got the ideas for the method from perry kaufman's book smarter trading.
MarkBrown,

Did you back test the idea before trading it live?
 
Hi

I'm a coder and data scientist. I have been working on trading for over 2 years. Spent lots of money. Every trainer i have paid lies. Because, there's no profitable system. If there's, nobody will teach you what it's. Trading is a zero-sum game. Your odds are same in Vegas. There's no such profitable trading system.

DeadTrader, I see that you're from Turkey. Just contact me..!

Turkish: Mesaj yaz bana hala buralardaysan :)
 
Hi

I'm a coder and data scientist...

Now why am i writing all these? Because i have started to find some patterns 2 years ago with hope. I was almost sure that i could do this. Hundreds of times, i tought i became millionaire. But there were always bug in the system. Failed tens of hundreds of times. Most of my trades stopped by a few ticks only or missed by a few ticks.

I'm working on this for 2 years and i have nothing left. It's like addiction. I know i will not be able to profitable but i'm still on it. Even if i can find a profitable strategy i will not be able to trade because no more balance left to trade. Actually I have found one. But it's all historical... It worked last 10 years and i doubt it will work tomorrow.

I know i know, most of you will call me loser and get mad at me. You are right. I'm a loser. I accept in advance and still love you. This is just my opinions. Like everyone says, these are not financial advice :)

Now i can go in peace...

You wrote the above on May 6th 2019 after thinking you should have become a millionaire with your new programming skills. Yet, you realize within 2 years that your coding skills are not adequate (not good enough)...resulting in you having "no more balance left to trade".

Next, you used your coding skills one more time to discover something that worked for the past 10 years but you doubt it will work tomorrow as in after May 6th 2019.

Going forward, you then manage to find a new source of trading capital to try your coding skills one more time...

Update:

I have lost another $1200 and I only have $504 left in my account. After it's gone, I'm going to end it...

Nobody is making money. NOBODY. And figuring it out costed my life.

So long traders!

Where did you get the new funds from to be trading again on May 16th 2019...you were right back at it 10 days later. Did you take out a loan from a dangerous Loan Shark that's now making threats of violence to you as they're now trying to recover the debt you now owe them ???

You're either the worst coder around or a troll. Yet, I sincerely hope you're just joking when you said "I'm going to end it". Instead, please stay away from the markets and seek closure about your coding/programming skills.

Trading doesn't produce good results for those under financial pressure or trading when they think there's a gun pointing at their head. Simply, although you're a coder...your emotions got the best of you...something that coders do not understand that they can not completely remove emotions from their trading when they are designing/executing those automated trading systems or mechanical indicators...

It still needs a human being to manage it.

wrbtrader
 
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Wow, That's really impressive. If i may ask, what kind of stats do you have on the trend following part of the system - Max DD and %profitability? I read in you earlier posts that you use a combination of trend-following and recovery mode. I'm assuming the 75% profitability is on the combined system. Is that correct? Because it is hard to imagine trend-following alone being able to generate that kind of profitability with very low DDs.
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Actually its not hard to imagine, but reality may differ,LOL as you implied VArO. LOL
Max drawdowns on an ETF like SPY which pays dividends is much less important- than profits.
On QQQ ,i stay WAY away= this May.WHY?? Because turtles may possibly put up with draWdowns; not aim for the 80% drawdowns QQQ has done in past.

88% profitable could easy be wrong 5 or 6 months/times in a row, or more; sure has done that in past. Good thing for marke, it seldom goes strait up or down 6 months in a row.
AS far as 88% accuracy/forecast ; JAN forcaster/Hirsch ,Stock Tradar's Almanc , used to be better than 88%. [Meaning as goes Jan ;so goes rest of the year.:cool::cool:, :cool::cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:]
 
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