All your homes belong to us says wells fargo

I thought this is a trading board, why is there a bunch of commies and socialists here. The bottom line is if the home owners had been paying their mortgages no one will be foreclosing their homes.

All this talk of mortgage frauds with the paper works is noting more than a minor technicality. The banks will eventually get the homes if you don't pay the monthly payment.

If the housing market has been going up instead, do you expect any of these home owners to give the bank some of the gain? But now the market has gone down, every scumbags and the gov wants to rewrite the contract and reduce the loan value.

This is like I bought some stocks and the price has gone down, now I want the seller, SEC, NYSE, NASDAQ, taxpayer, anyone but me to eat the losses. This is just crazy or is capitalism and the rule of laws are dead.
 
Quote from Bob111:

http://www.city-data.com/zips/18954.html

http://www.city-data.com/zips/18940.html

http://www.city-data.com/zips/19020.html

http://www.city-data.com/zips/19007.html

http://www.city-data.com/city/Levittown-Pennsylvania.html



the list is pretty fucking long, but the bottom line is simple-do your home work,pick and valuate property carefully, don't buy more that you NEED and CAN AFFORD and you should be just fucking fine

here is random pick..just to compare-

http://www.city-data.com/zips/34231.html

i'm pretty sure there is plenty of fucked up prices in FL. specially in miami area..too lazy to dig some zip codes of that place..
I also do not have a mortgage on any of my properties.....and Austin, TX has held up very well so far! :)
 
Quote from Atheist:

I thought this is a trading board, why is there a bunch of commies and socialists here. The bottom line is if the home owners had been paying their mortgages no one will be foreclosing their homes.

All this talk of mortgage frauds with the paper works is noting more than a minor technicality. The banks will eventually get the homes if you don't pay the monthly payment.

If the housing market has been going up instead, do you expect any of these home owners to give the bank some of the gain? But now the market has gone down, every scumbags and the gov wants to rewrite the contract and reduce the loan value.

This is like I bought some stocks and the price has gone down, now I want the seller, SEC, NYSE, NASDAQ, taxpayer, anyone but me to eat the losses. This is just crazy or is capitalism and the rule of laws are dead.

You seem like a typical blockheaded parrot who regurgitates this empty rhetoric.

It's a helluva lot more nuanced than what you've written above, but you certainly aren't too swift, so it's probably a moot point.

I'm all for capitalism, but you can't bail out banks, let them feed off of Fed largesse and then turn around and tell everybody else that they should play fair.

It's not some "commie" debate...
 
Quote from Bob111:

i'm well aware of that..and in this case that would be MY losses..not yours, not some joe the plummer,who have nothing to to with it,but forced to scoop some money for another bailout for those greedy fucks, mentioned above...
btw-so far the value of the houses in my zip code did not move a penny since peak of 2006

bob, spot on. as someone who also worked and deserve what i have i hope the banks foreclose on all those who overspent and what not.

as far as values plummeting, i do not care that much as the way i see it..those higher prices never should have existed.

threats of social unrest are from inexperienced chicken littles or from those who made the mistakes imo.

anyway, how could anyone who has half a brain say it is ok to simply break a contract or deal?
 
Quote from sellindexvol66:

bob, spot on. as someone who also worked and deserve what i have i hope the banks foreclose on all those who overspent and what not.

as far as values plummeting, i do not care that much as the way i see it..those higher prices never should have existed.

threats of social unrest are from inexperienced chicken littles or from those who made the mistakes imo.

anyway, how could anyone who has half a brain say it is ok to simply break a contract or deal?

It is not okay to break a contract unless there is deception is used to trick a person into the contract!
 
Quote from denner:

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I'm all for capitalism, but you can't bail out banks, let them feed off of Fed largesse and then turn around and tell everybody else that they should play fair.

It's not some "commie" debate... [/B][/QUOTE

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Yes. Look at this.

http://huffpostfund.org/stories/2010/10/new-tax-man-big-banks-and-hedge-funds

"The Wall Street investors, which include Bank of America and JPMorgan Chase & Co., have purchased from local governments the right to collect delinquent taxes on several hundred thousand properties, many in distressed housing markets, the Huffington Post Investigative Fund has found.

In many cases, the banks and hedge funds created new companies to do their bidding. They gave the companies obscure, even whimsical names and used post office boxes as their addresses, masking Wall Street’s dominant new role as a surrogate tax collector.

In exchange for paying overdue real estate taxes, the investors gain legal powers from local governments to collect the debt and levy fees. At first, property owners may owe little more than a few hundred dollars, only to find their bills soaring into the thousands. In some jurisdictions, the new Wall Street tax collectors also chase debtors over other small bills, such as for water, sewer and sidewalk repair.

VIDEO by Lagan Sebert
The Big Business Wall Street Won't Discuss Full VideoSome states allow the investors to tack on as much as 18 percent interest and a passel of legal fees and other charges. When property owners fail to make full payment, the investors can sue to foreclose – in some states within as little as six months.

In June, Bank of America snatched up liens on properties in Florida owned by low-income residents and nonprofit public interest groups, including a Salvation Army shelter, a preschool and a wildlife rescue group involved in the Gulf of Mexico oil spill cleanup, the Investigative Fund found in its examination. Bank of America also bought liens on properties of the wealthy, including a professional basketball star with the Los Angeles Lakers, Lamar Odom.

Some observers of the financial services industry said they were surprised to learn that banks, some of which received billions of dollars in taxpayer-funded bailouts in recent years, were rushing to profit from homeowners having trouble paying their tax bills."
 
Quote from olias:

My reaction to this is that EVERYBODY IS GREEDY. Seriously, it's human nature to have that drive. It's what drives progress. It was greed that drove Bill Gates for all these years, and that's the kind of greed I don't have a problem with.

Completely disagree.

Microsoft is much bigger than Bill Gates and that company isn't driven by greed. Theirs is a scorched earth policy based on gluttony; they want to own the entire market they happen to be in or decide to go after.

Problem is, they don't do it with better products, they do it because no one can stop them due to how big they've become.

Anyone who's worked in the IT industry knows full well that their presence has irrevocably warped and stunted both the software and hardware markets. There were much better solutions in each that were crushed either because it was viewed as the competition or because it wasn't suitable to their plans.

If anything, it, like the big banks, big oil, and big government, underlines the fact that "too big to fail" is bullshit.

It should be "too big for our own good."
 
Quote from AMT4SWA:

I also do not have a mortgage on any of my properties.....and Austin, TX has held up very well so far! :)

people on ET seems to have problem accepting the simple facts that TODAY someone might be a bit better positioned in the life than they are. i did post my statements numerous times here, only to hear that they are fake or altered. same with houses..candyland..that's ok..i can live with that..i only use ET for entertaining anyway.
 
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