all things CRUZ

jimmiebarton · Jul 9, 2015

futurecurrents said:
What is this love affair with constraints and an old out of date and inadequate to begin with piece of paper? I don't get it.

Perhaps those who most love it are into constraints and are inadequate themselves (themself?).

Its now 225 yrs old document. Granted its authors were super prescient, and pretty much still works literally. butwill It be valid in literal interpretation a 1000yrs from here? 10,000?

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Scataphagos · Jul 9, 2015

jimmiebarton said:
ya, he does lean to the right.

Why is he and guys like him so conservative...IE attached to keeping the status quo?

"Lean to the right"? Does that mean anybody who is (sensibly) anti-Left is actually "Right"?

The original "status quo"... was "limited Federal government so that citizens could pursue their own lives as they saw fit".

That's how it should still be today. All else is BS!

jimmiebarton · Jul 9, 2015

fhl said:
I don't want to constrain the use of fossil fuels. But i guess you're right. Only the old and inadequate do.

There little doubt we're poisoning our air and streams, lakes & ocean. For quite some time now, and at a rate that overwhelms the natural compensatory mechanisms. IOW, that toxic SHITE doesn't just magically disappear, but accumulates. To say we don't need to act now, lets wait for a health and life crises of epic proportion. Then we'll address it! is STUPID, imo

Scataphagos · Jul 9, 2015

jimmiebarton said:
There little doubt we're poisoning our air and streams, lakes & ocean. For quite some time now, and at a rate that overwhelms the natural compensatory mechanisms. IOW, that toxic SHITE doesn't just magically disappear, but accumulates. To say we don't need to act now, lets wait for a health and life crises of epic proportion. Then we'll address it! is STUPID, imo

Can't the same be said for our Federal Government... in a metaphorical sense?

jimmiebarton · Jul 9, 2015

Scataphagos said:
Can't the same be said for our Federal Government... in a metaphorical sense?

Ok. Name 5 gripes you have about policy of current admin (an admin that was duly elected by a majority i might add)?

Scataphagos · Jul 9, 2015

jimmiebarton said:
Ok. Name 5 gripes you have about policy of current admin (an admin that was duly elected by a majority i might add)?

What? You think the Odumbo Administration... likely the worst, anti-American ever... is without fault? If there were any justice in this world he would have choked to death on a Twinkie years ago.

jimmiebarton · Jul 9, 2015

Scataphagos said:
What? You think the Odumbo Administration... likely the worst, anti-American ever... is without fault? If there were any justice in this world he would have choked to death on a Twinkie years ago.

its improbable to have a rational discussion with you

Scataphagos · Jul 9, 2015

jimmiebarton said:
its improbable to have a rational discussion with you

Very well. I was going to ask you to name 5 things Odumbo did which benefited America. Doubt you could.... so you're now ON IGNORE!!

(I understand "5" would be ambitious. Actually, I would have settled for just "1".)

Ricter · Jul 9, 2015

Scataphagos said:
Very well. I was going to ask you to name 5 things Odumbo did which benefited America. Doubt you could.... so you're now ON IGNORE!!

(I understand "5" would be ambitious. Actually, I would have settled for just "1".)

You would deny that 1 anyway.

jimmiebarton · Jul 9, 2015

Scataphagos said:
Very well. I was going to ask you to name 5 things Odumbo did which benefited America. Doubt you could.... so you're now ON IGNORE!!

I'll start here...#1 ACA. Affordable healthcare, I'm for it! You against stemming rising unaffordable healthcare, and availability?

Not a perfect work a good beginning to universal healthcare for all citizens of most powerful, moral, humane country of the world