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Actually I don't need to do a google search, I have first hand experience with this from a previous professional life when I actually did migrant interdiction ops. There actually is no limit on the number of asylum seekers who will be accepted under the Refugee Act of 1980 (U.S. law). There is a limit of refugees who will be accepted, but who am I kidding, they're all the same as far as you know, right?

There is no limit on the number of refugees/asylum seekers who will be accepted but there is no obligatory number of refugees/asylum seekers that any countries that signed onto the Refugee Act is required to accept. So I don't know why you choose to play with the words here.

But let's get back to facts. A wall doesn't stop anyone under current U.S. law and treaties the U.S. has signed from requesting asylum! Full stop. Which they can do at any point on the border with the U.S. without first crossing into the U.S., and the U.S. has to either admit them or detain them until they've done a credible fear/reasonable feer screening. Which it would cost a few million dollars for us to staff up fully to allow us to do expedited return of spurious asylum seekers, just under a trillion less than building a pointless wall, but you're the fiscally conservative one are you? You seem to refuse to accept this fact, the question you have to ask yourself is why? Again, you're a smart guy, so at this point you're obviously working super hard internally to be obtuse on this point, it must hurt for someone who actually is smart enough to get it to have to pretend so hard that they don't?

And please, if you want to get into a patriotism pissing contest with me, how about I go live in Mexico a year for every time you put your life on the line for your country and you go live there a year for every time I did? It's supremely insulting to tell someone who served their country for over 20 years they should leave that country because they hold a different political view than you, sorry to lose my temper a bit but I have to ask who the fuck do you think you are?

Nobody is doing a patriotism pissing contest here; only you are calling one here. Having a wall there to protect USA's sovereignty is needed. Full stop. If you have served for your country then help protect it now from unauthorized intruders with a wall, a well-built wall. I can't see why you would object to it.
 
Nobody is doing a patriotism pissing contest here; only you are calling one here. Having a wall there to protect USA's sovereignty is needed. Full stop. If you have served for your country then help protect it now from unauthorized intruders with a wall, a well-built wall. I can't see why you would object to it.
It takes a pretty stunning level of arrogance to think that you have a monopoly on what it means to protect the sovereignty of the U.S. Especially given the demonstrated lack of understanding of fundamental concepts like asylum and refugee request, lack of basic logic about how asylum requestors legally cross the border under current law, and just the throw a cherry on top your utter lack of experience in defending our country's sovereignty and the fact that you're in a conversation with someone who did that for a living for 20+ years. But if I disagree with you, I'm the one who should move to Mexico? Breathtaking really.

I just explained ad nauseum to you why a wall does nothing to protect against asylum requests and provided a solution that costs .1% as much that accomplishes what you ostensibly want to accomplish with this group. Your response has never at any time been to point out how a wall actually does anything to "defend" against a person who walks up to the border and request asylum, it's instead to desperately try to divert attention to how many asylum seekers should be allowed into the country and how anyone who disagrees with you should move to Mexico, ect. While you also know fuck all about all those things, it's really completely irrelevant to the fact that if you think asylum seekers are a problem a billion dollar wall does absolutely nothing to stop them because they're crossing the border legally under current asylum law when they ask for asylum at the border!

I'll ask for the now 10th time to answer this very simple question you just can't seem to get your head around, or more likely just can't answer without incurring some congnitive dissonance with your worldview so you're oh so desperately trying to avoid doing so.
Fact: Under current U.S. law a person can walk up to a border checkpoint and while remaining outside the U.S. request asylum, at which point the U.S. must evaluate that request which requires admitting the person until at a minimum a credible fear/reasonable fear screening is conducted.
Question: How does a wall stop these people from coming into the U.S.?
Just answer the damn question, no transparent attempts to divert to a topic you'd rather discuss like if the U.S. should or shouldn't have the laws it does or should or shouldn't admit these folks or that those who disagree with you don't deserve to live in the country they put their life on the line for. Just the very simple question of what a wall does to stop these folks? Can you answer that question strait up? Your history tells us you can't, and yet you're confused that anyone would object to your reasoning when you're utterly incapable of answering this very simple question with a straight up answer? I'm happy to continue this discussion once you can provide a straight up answer to that question, until then you're simply deluding yourself that hiding your head in the sand somehow makes inconvenient questions and facts stop existing.
 
It takes a pretty stunning level of arrogance to think that you have a monopoly on what it means to protect the sovereignty of the U.S. Especially given the demonstrated lack of understanding of fundamental concepts like asylum and refugee request, lack of basic logic about how asylum requestors legally cross the border under current law, and just the throw a cherry on top your utter lack of experience in defending our country's sovereignty and the fact that you're in a conversation with someone who did that for a living for 20+ years. But if I disagree with you, I'm the one who should move to Mexico? Breathtaking really.

I just explained ad nauseum to you why a wall does nothing to protect against asylum requests and provided a solution that costs .1% as much that accomplishes what you ostensibly want to accomplish with this group. Your response has never at any time been to point out how a wall actually does anything to "defend" against a person who walks up to the border and request asylum, it's instead to desperately try to divert attention to how many asylum seekers should be allowed into the country and how anyone who disagrees with you should move to Mexico, ect. While you also know fuck all about all those things, it's really completely irrelevant to the fact that if you think asylum seekers are a problem a billion dollar wall does absolutely nothing to stop them because they're crossing the border legally under current asylum law when they ask for asylum at the border!

I'll ask for the now 10th time to answer this very simple question you just can't seem to get your head around, or more likely just can't answer without incurring some congnitive dissonance with your worldview so you're oh so desperately trying to avoid doing so.
Fact: Under current U.S. law a person can walk up to a border checkpoint and while remaining outside the U.S. request asylum, at which point the U.S. must evaluate that request which requires admitting the person until at a minimum a credible fear/reasonable fear screening is conducted.
Question: How does a wall stop these people from coming into the U.S.?
Just answer the damn question, no transparent attempts to divert to a topic you'd rather discuss like if the U.S. should or shouldn't have the laws it does or should or shouldn't admit these folks or that those who disagree with you don't deserve to live in the country they put their life on the line for. Just the very simple question of what a wall does to stop these folks? Can you answer that question strait up? Your history tells us you can't, and yet you're confused that anyone would object to your reasoning when you're utterly incapable of answering this very simple question with a straight up answer? I'm happy to continue this discussion once you can provide a straight up answer to that question, until then you're simply deluding yourself that hiding your head in the sand somehow makes inconvenient questions and facts stop existing.

It's clear you are trolling now. I am going to stop the discussion right here. You need to cool it.
 
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It's clear you are trolling now. I am going to stop the discussion right here. You need to cool it.
And so the answer is clear, you have absolutely no answer to the very clear and basic question multiple folks here have asked you over and over. Thanks for confirming that.

And please, you don't get to tell me I should move to Mexico if I disagree with you, and then tell me to "cool it" when I point out the utter arrogance implicit in that statement. Look at what you wrote, then look in the mirror if you're concerned about trolling.

No worries though, unlike you I was happy to make sacrifices for folks who don't agree with me specifically so that they have the freedom to disagree. That's what makes America, not walls or perceptions of some kind of precious "sovereignty" as defined by people who have in the words of a great patriot Khizr Khan "sacrificed nothing and no one" and whose only contribution appears to be the accident of their birth on this side of the border.
 
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You disappoint me @sle. I thought you are more sophisticated than that to make statements such as these.
Sure, let's do sophisticated. I have to assume you are not a Native American. This means that you or your (x-grand)parents came to this country and integrated into a well functioning market economy. Now you are trying to prevent others from coming here so they don't compete with you for the same cookies. So xenophobia that you are displaying here in economics is called "rent seeking" and, in capitalist terms, is the lowest possible behavior possible.
 
They would have to charge every customer a gratuity for this to work. I imagine most people that go to sonic leave 0 tip.
 
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