http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxGUeZtnoQuote from vhehn:
... what the hell was she trying to say in this speech?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqsUNQAbtnA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0XRot6ydGM
I wish i had the time to go back over the past 8 months and compile the posts I've read re: Obama from the right. Even leaving aside those from members whose main problem with Obama is that he's a 'fucking nigger' (and there are quite a few of them on here, as we all know) the tone I have seen is something approaching hysteria. He's being blamed for every conceivable problem, from the economic meltdown to Iran's intransigence to the state of health care. They're questioning whether he's an American citizen (and seriously, Lucrum, can you tell me that you think this is a rational objection?). They're questioning his academic cred (the fucking guy was editor of the Harvard Law Review). They're calling him a Muslim infiltrator. Things that he couldn't possibly have anything to do with are being laid at his black-ass doorstep. That's not 'watching with bemusement'. That's rabid hatred masquerading as politically informed dissent.Quote from Lucrum:
Why can't the right be "watching with bemusement" at "how much of a fuck-up Obama is..."
The point being our perceptions of what constitutes obsession or "watching with bemusement" seems to depend on which political team you tend to root for, and often not much else.
By the way and for the record, I'm underwhelmed by Obama's performance so far. It seems to me that he's got a tendency to try not to offend anyone, which is not a good trait in a leader. He's also got a bit too much of a socialist streak for my liking. However, I'm still happy he won, just because I relish the thought of all the hard core racists on here whinging and whining and wondering what ever happened to their beloved White America.Quote from Lucrum:
Why can't the right be "watching with bemusement" at "how much of a fuck-up Obama is..."
Quote from Lucrum:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxxxGUeZtno
What the hell was BO trying to say here?
I only looked back over the last two pages of this forum. There are 5 anti BO threads and 12 anti Palin threads.Quote from traderNik:
I wish i had the time to go back over the past 8 months and compile the posts I've read re: Obama from the right...
Bush was literally blamed for causing a tsunami for christ sake. It comes with the office, or at least it did over the last eight years.He's being blamed for every conceivable problem, from the economic meltdown to Iran's intransigence to the state of health care....
Some of his own relatives have publicly stated BO was born in Kenya. If he's got noting to hide then why not just produce a legitimate long form BC? Although personally I think the issue is dead, at least until he runs again.They're questioning whether he's an American citizen (and seriously, Lucrum, can you tell me that you think this is a rational objection?).
Then maybe King Hussein should stop publicly bragging about his Muslim roots.They're calling him a Muslim infiltrator...
Again it comes with the territory. And EXACTLY the same thing was done to Bush. Some of it deserved of course.Things that he couldn't possibly have anything to do with are being laid at his black ass doorstep.
"rabid hatred" and "politically informed dissent" are completely subjective terms Nick. Seems to me there is plenty of both, coming from both sides.That's not 'watching with bemusement'. That's rabid hatred masquerading as politically informed dissent.
In YOUR eyes I'm sure she is, in my eyes her public speaking is about as good as say, that fucking idiot Biden.Palin is a laughable figure and it's easy to laugh at her....
True enough. And while I would be happier with her as POTUS over BO, Biden or McCain. Personally I'd be very surprised if she's electable. But then what do I know? I doubted BO was electable until late in the campaign.there is an apparently considerable faction within the Republican party that thinks she should be run against Obama in 2012. That's news, no matter how you lean politically.
From what I gather you're not alone.Quote from traderNik:
By the way and for the record, I'm underwhelmed by Obama's performance so far...
In BO's defense, this is because he's NOT a leader. He's a politician.It seems to me that he's got a tendency to try not to offend anyone, which is not a good trait in a leader.
Common ground.He's also got a bit too much of a socialist streak for my liking...
I relish the thought of all the hard core racists on here whinging and whining and wondering what ever happened to their beloved White America.
I always base my comments on the assumption that rational observers on different sides of the political fence could agree on some baseline truths.Quote from Lucrum:
True enough. And while I would be happier with her as POTUS over BO, Biden or McCain
Quote from traderNik:
So I have to ask you - do you really think that someone who thinks Africa is a country is qualified to be President? Really? Seriously?
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