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Now.This will be my final post if you accept the bet in your next post.


Just to be clear the the person who posts first on ET after this post and your next post loses the bet and doesn't post for 30 days after that .Basically the loser will be admitting defeat to start to get his 30 day posting ban over with

Confirm with your next post and lets see who can stay away from ET the longest :)
 
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I understand your disgust with the republicans, really I do. No need to explain that.

I don't understand how a self admitted red neck construction worker in west Texas not only embraces the dems but swallows so much of their Kool-aid that he becomes a bleeding heart.

NOT an insult BTW, just an observation/opinion.
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Tell me how my not thinking health care qualifys as a luxury as defined by the dictionary makes you say all that, please tell me.
 
BSAM, please step back and get clear view of who it is you are attempting to "converse" with. And stop now. They don't think of you as an debate opponent, they think of you as a murdering thief just as they've been told you are. Don't go down this road.

BTW, LA Lakers = Smell A Fakers.
 
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If you noticed, earlier, I said that I believe in true national healthcare.

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Much as I used to be against such ideology, I now believe that we have got to do something that is run by the government.
I know that sounds "liberal" to a lot, but I can no longer trust the system that we have.

When I think of the costs and the way the system is run, I start to think about our massive government waste.
Then, I start thinking about how our spending could be controlled such that money could be better spent on healthcare.

I'm actually a real conservative. (Aren't too many of those around today.)
I don't think that being a true conservative means going along with whatever the rich say is the correct thing to do.
You have to try to see what the motive of people are.

Let me throw this out and see what you think...
We do away with the veterans' system, medicare, and medicaid.
We replace it with, (let's call it) USA Care.

It not knocking our great vets, our old people, or our poor.
I'm just trying to think in terms of some kind of consolidation for the betterment of the system and the country.

So, bottom line: Cut spending in certain areas, replace the current for-profit system with a government run system because it seems apparent to me that we can't trust those who are now running the system.

Can any of this work for you?
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Let's get one thing straight first, I am for the greatest 'good' for the greatest number of people.

Consolidation into one government system for 'the betterment of the country'? The leftist ideal on just about everything, it is always the answer. The problem is that it is an illusion and never works well in reality.

VA hospitals are just what you described, they are not very good. Canada is the only single provider system in the west and it isn't because everyone just hasn't gotten there yet, it is because our collective wisdom has shown us that it's not very efficient. It's all back to gov't versus free market, and free market wins almost every time. Look at it this way- All around us we see public employees ruining the finances of state and local governments. We also can see what a huge waste TSA is, and that federal employees pensions and healthcare is very costly and set to explode. You want more of that? what a disaster

The only workable solution is less healthcare, not more. Canada did it, Sweden did it, so it's time for us to put the big boy pants on.
 
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Tell me how my not thinking health care qualifys as a luxury as defined by the dictionary makes you say all that, please tell me.
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It is a scarce commodity.
 
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Now.This will be my final post if you accept the bet in your next post.


Just to be clear the the person who posts first on ET after this post and your next post loses the bet and doesn't post for 30 days after that .Basically the loser will be admitting defeat to start to get his 30 day posting ban over with

Confirm with your next post and lets see who can stay away from ET the longest :)
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You're on.
 
Quote from Lucrum:

I understand your disgust with the republicans, really I do. No need to explain that.

I don't understand how a self admitted red neck construction worker in west Texas not only embraces the dems but swallows so much of their Kool-aid that he becomes a bleeding heart.

NOT an insult BTW, just an observation/opinion.
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I've thought the same thing.
 
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Tell me how my not thinking health care qualifys as a luxury as defined by the dictionary makes you say all that, please tell me.
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It is a scarce commodity that costs a lot, I'm not sure what the problem is here. The average cost of a Cholecystectomy (laparoscopic) is around $8K, it is one of the most common surgeries. $8K is luxury as far as most people are concerned.

Nursing home care runs between $100K to $300K a year. That's not a lot to you? I guess not as long as someone else pays.
 
The homeless advocates should unionize and buy a group health insurance policy from the chamber of commerce. Then when some homeless guy complains of chest pain with a resulting 40 - 50 k 3 day hospital stay, he'll be covered by insurance.

But will they...no! :D
 
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