ALL MAJOR USA investment banks...INSOLVENT RISK VERY HIGH

Level 1 means the values come from quoted prices in active markets. The balance-sheet changes then pass through the income statement each quarter as gains or losses. Call this mark-to-market.

Level 2 values are measured using "observable inputs," such as recent transaction prices for similar items, where market quotes aren't available. Call this mark-to-model.

Level 3. Under Statement 157, this means fair value is measured using "unobservable inputs." While companies can't actually see the changes in the fair values of their assets and liabilities, they're allowed to book them through earnings anyway, based on their own subjective assumptions. Call this mark-to-make-believe.
 
When I read stories like the following i'm ready to jump out the the top floor window. It looks like it could get really bad.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/11/06/ccciti106.xml


Plunging markets fear a meltdown
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
Last Updated: 1:35am GMT 06/11/2007


The peak pain for America's sub-prime debtors will hit next spring as interest rates jerk upwards with venomous effect on all those "teaser" loans taken out at the height of the property bubble in 2005 and 2006.

The losses are already bad enough. A study by Barclays Capital found that 16pc of sub-prime mortgages taken out in January 2006 are in default, and 28pc are in arrears beyond 30 days. Struggling to catch up, the rating agencies downgraded a further $100bn of mortgage debt in October alone.

This mortgage debt – mostly packaged into collateralised debt obligations (CDOs) and sold to banks, hedge funds, insurers, and pension funds across the world – is tracked by the ABX index. This shows that some of the AA tranches have lost 20pc of their value, while the "toxic" BBB tranches have lost almost four fifths.

While it is hard to calculate the damage, it is clear that roughly $2,000bn (£1,000bn) of sub-prime debt and related 'Alt-A' debt is worth far less than book value.

Some can disguise these paper losses. Others are not so lucky. Those that rely on short-term funding in the US commercial paper market can no longer roll over loans, forcing them to sell assets into a sliding market. The asset-backed commercial paper market has contracted for 12 weeks in a row, cutting off $300bn in funding.

Deutsche Bank chairman Josef Ackermann warns that total sub-prime losses are likely to be $150bn to $250bn, triple the bank's estimate in July.

While Citigroup has come clean with write-down of up to $11bn in mortgage loans, few lenders have stepped forward to take their punishment.

The suspicion is that banks in Germany, Spain, and Britain are still trying to muddle through in the hope that the market for CDOs will recover enough to bail them out.

Suki Mann, a strategist at Société Générale, said the credit markets feared an "Armageddon scenario" once again. "We're back to pre-September risk-aversion mode," he said.

Hans-Redeker, currency chief at BNP Paribas, said the banks could not easily reveal their true losses. "Our view is that these losses are so substantial that it puts current business models at risk," he said.

The Federal Reserve has slashed interest rates from 5.25pc to 4.5pc since September but this comes too late to head off what is now the worst property crash since the Great Depression.

The Case-Shiller index of house prices in the 10 biggest US cities fell 5pc in August from a year earlier, and the downturn has since accelerated. Sales have collapsed to the lowest levels since modern records began, while the glut of unsold homes has reached a record 10.5 months supply.

"The data has been much worse than people realized," said Huw van Steenis, chief bank analyst at Morgan Stanley.

"There will be further write-downs. The liquidity problem of a few months ago has now changed into a capital problem, which is more difficult to solve. Banks have chewed through their capital ratios and this is going to put a brake on lending." he said.

Until now, the US economy has held up remarkably well. The US October employment report showed a gain of 166,000 jobs, but this tends to be a lagging indicator. A clutch of consumer surveys now point to a sharp fall in confidence.

It is far from clear that Europe and Asia shake off a cold as America sneezes. Japan – still the world's number two economy – has tipped abruptly into recession. Housing starts fell 43pc in August and 44pc in September, touching a four-decade low. Japanese wages have dropped in nine of the last 10 months, and unemployment has jumped to 4pc, from 3.6pc in July.

Eric Chaney, Morgan Stanley's euro-zone economist, said there was now a risk of a manufacturing recession in Europe. "Production has fallen off a cliff in Germany and has slowed in The Netherlands, France, and Belgium. Something has happened. We take the warning seriously," he said.

Ultimately, the US Federal Reserve can slash rates back to 1pc again – or even to Japanese-style zero rates – if need be. But it cannot re-open the floodgates of liquidity at a time when oil has reached $94 a barrel.

Nor can it easily act alone while the dollar is sliding to all-time lows, and risks a rout.

The Fed is hemmed in. This is the price America must now pay for mortgaging the nation.
 
Ok lets be clear.

These level 3 values are based on throwing in the kitchen sink, the worst possible case. A new CEO wants it all clean when he starts.

BUT THIS IS ONLY NOW when house prices are down only 7%.

What if house price fall to 14%....or 25%.

More level 3 increases next year.
 
10-15-07 Quote from anvil993:

Recently the Financial Standards Board, the private group charged with coming up with rules under which publicly traded companies must report their financial results, issued Statement 157 entitled "Fair Value Measurements." (1) Up until this time companies could generally use either "mark to market" or "market to model" to report assets and liabilities. The latter method is subjective by its nature and prone to abuse. A staff accountant armed with a spreadsheet in the back room can play with assumptions and inputs to gin up the bottom line in a way that allows management to qualify for the maximum bonus.

However, in our sophisticated and enlightened business world these two methods were not enough to permit companies to report on their true results. So the accountants obliged by creating a new reporting methodology called Level 3. At the heart of this new "standard" is:

"Unobservable inputs are inputs that reflect the reporting entity’s own assumptions

about the assumptions market participants would use in pricing the asset or liability developed based on the best information available in the circumstances." (Page 21)

When managers are trying to figure out how deeply to dig to come up with information to verify their unobservable inputs they can use this guidance:

"Therefore, unobservable inputs shall reflect the reporting entity’s own assumptions about the assumptions that market participants would use in pricing the asset or liability (including assumptions about risk). Unobservable inputs shall be developed based on the best information available in the circumstances, which might include the reporting entity’s own data. In developing unobservable inputs, the reporting entity need not undertake all possible efforts to obtain information about market participant assumptions." (Page 24,emphasis added)

This last loophole will come in handy when a trial lawyer asks the CFO why he carried Microsoft stock on the balance sheet at three times market value.

It is no surprise that Level 3 was quickly called Mark to Fantasy.

I think it is fair to say that a company will try very hard to classify assets in Level 1 (mark to market) or Level 2 (mark to model). Anything that goes into Level 3 has to be is in a pretty bad state. For example, few CEOs would be willing to take their bonuses in Level 3 assets.

The accountants introduced Level 3 (Mark to Fantasy) at a good time. Martin Hutchinson just published a column (2) that describes the deteriorating quality of earnings and features shenanigans at Goldman Sachs as follows:

"Goldman Sachs, for example, reported this week that the "Level 3" assets in its books, those for which liquidity is lowest and valuation most difficult, had jumped by a third in the quarter to $72.05 billion. These "Level 3" assets presumably don’t include Goldman’s multi-billion dollar holding of the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China, quoted daily on a stock exchange, however over-inflated its share price and illiquid its trading market. Instead, they appear to represent mostly derivatives and securitization assets linked distantly to mortgage loans and leveraged buyout deals, whose valuation is carried out by the operating unit itself, based on the price at which it would have to sell the asset to preserve its bonus pool from unexpected losses.

"Set against Goldman’s capital of $36 billion, that $72 billion is a frightening figure. At some point, probably in a downturn, the real value of those "Level 3" assets will have to be recognized. No doubt the resulting losses will be written off against capital but even Goldman’s brilliant and gloriously paid accountants will find it difficult to write off $72 billion of losses against $36 billion of capital."

So Level 3 assets are twice the size of Goldman’s capital. If the accountants hadn’t invented this timely gift Goldman Sachs would have a negative capital account. I don’t think Goldman Sachs could survive that write down. Goldman has contractual dealing with businesses around the world. All of those contracts probably have provisions that require the parties to stay financially healthy. Negative capital would trigger massive defaults. Many of the businesses, governments and foundations that Goldman does business with have charters that require their business partners to live up to exacting financial standards. If Goldman Sachs had negative capital could it underwrite bonds for California or act as a trustee for anyone?

It appears that the only thing that is keeping Goldman Sachs alive, and enabling its executives to get their bonuses, is an accounting gimmick. If this is correct, the American economy is in very desperate shape. No wonder Hank Paulson looks stressed out.
Hank Fellerman

1. Statement of Financial Accounting Standards No. 157, September 2006. http://www.standardsetter.de/drsc/docs/press_releases/fas157.pdf
2. Martin Hutchinson, "Increasingly Elusive Earnings," October 15, 2007 http://prudentbear.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4789&Itemid=53
 
Totally agree. What good is GDP growth of 4% if your currency is collapsing 30-100% against the World?
Basically, we have the WORST economy on a dollar comparison ever right now. I don't think your average Joe is basking in wealth.



Quote from JamesVU2000:

The whole US economy simply has so little cash flow or equity behind it. The last four years have been massive balance sheet expansion.
 
FUCK AMERICA,

Yes I said it. FUCK AMERICA. It is not the country that was founded by the great thinkers anymore. Capitalism is no longer part of our thinking process nor taught in our Universities.

A moral thoughts, mulitculturalism, socialism and dumbing down teachings are now the driving force in America.

We are nothing but a paper tigher and the world has set fire to our tail.

American's make nothing, manufacture very little but spend 4x what they earn.

Chumps, 99% 9 to 5w]ers who are fucking robots.

True capitalist have been sold down the river by the politican's and public.

America needs to collapse in order to rebuild. Hopefully, most of you will prosper from the event.
 
Quote from EMRGLOBAL:

FUCK AMERICA,

Yes I said it. FUCK AMERICA. It is not the country that was founded by the great thinkers anymore. Capitalism is no longer part of our thinking process nor taught in our Universities.

A moral thoughts, mulitculturalism, socialism and dumbing down teachings are now the driving force in America.

We are nothing but a paper tigher and the world has set fire to our tail.

American's make nothing, manufacture very little but spend 4x what they earn.

Chumps, 99% 9 to 5w]ers who are fucking robots.

True capitalist have been sold down the river by the politican's and public.

America needs to collapse in order to rebuild. Hopefully, most of you will prosper from the event.


Mate I am not an America. I have the utmost respect for the men who foundered America. Before you so harsh on yourselves remember one thing, America is the engine of the world, if America sneezes the rest of the world will get flu. Or in other words if America is stuffed, the rest of us are far far worse off.
 
I do have a lot of respect for the founding fathers.

However, I do not think you know of what you speak about.

I do not have time to go into details but you my friend are living in the past.

Wake up or you too will fall to the way side, much like the US dollar and soon, the over all US economy.

There will be a great buying opportunity for the entire world in the in the coming years.

Hopefully, you will keep that faith in the face of the abyss that is coming.

Don't fool yourself, it isn't a crash that is coming. It is a decade long bear that will hit harder than anyone has ever felt in the past 50 years.
 
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