All Europeans are pussies.

Quote from AAAintheBeltway:

Well, I'll admit this. European women on average seem to be a lot hotter than American women. Easier too in my experience, but that could just be because they weren't used to being with a real man.

You tip your hand once again...geekboy.
 
Quote from man:

western society is secular. THIS is the main definition
of our culture. when russia was the opponent, did anyone
say:"we are christians and you are not"? no, we said
we are a secular government ruled by democracy and
individual rights.


Soviets were commonly denounced as "Godless communists". Christianity stood opposed to communism for precisely this reason. Since the vast majority of the west was Christian, it makes perfect sense to attribute such oppostion to it. ("Democracy and individual rights". Fine principles, but are they enough to stir the hearts of men to oppose obvious tyranny? The current experience with Muslim immigration suggests they are not.)


the latter btw include forming groups.
and as long as these groups respect the overall rules
there is no problem with them, may you call them
minority or whatever.

And when such groups fight to secure special privileges for themselves, against the interests of other groups, what then?


old india was a place where all religions where welcome
and for centuries muslims, hindus, christians and
buddhists could coexist. it is not the belief itself which
is the problem but its abuse by militant power that
can distort everything, even the most peaceful
conviction.

Really? I'd forgotten that. I'll have to read Alice In Wonderland again.
 
Quote from Copernicus:



Late 16the century Poles saved Europe from the Ottoman Empire, WW2 Russians cleaned out the Nazis with "other superpowers" taking credit for standing and watching, worst yet selling out again to Stalin.


Greeks and Bulgarians (who weren't even Christian yet, but apparently knew a bad thing when they saw it) saved Europe from Islam a thousand years earlier, even before Charles Martel. (See here and here.)
 
Quote from Sam321:

I guess I underestimated the fact that the West is completely governed by women. Therefore, when it comes to war, there is this long piercing hysterical whine for, not leadership & victory, but consensus, retreat & defeat.


The two wars probably have a lot to do with this. They took million upon million of the finest and bravest of European manhood. To whatever extent character is influenced by genes--a significant extent, imo--extinguishing the genes of the aforementioned would had to have played a role in the development of the enfeebled masculinity on display today.

I can only hope the appearance of hardy Muslim men, who are unafraid of putting women in their place, will jolt the European male out of his craven subserviance to feminist doctrine.
 
Quote from spect8or:

Greeks and Bulgarians (who weren't even Christian yet, but apparently knew a bad thing when they saw it) saved Europe from Islam a thousand years earlier, even before Charles Martel. (See here and here.)

no disagreement there, Greeks, Macedonians etc always a fighting nation
 
Quote from spect8or:

The two wars probably have a lot to do with this. They took million upon million of the finest and bravest of European manhood. To whatever extent character is influenced by genes--a significant extent, imo--extinguishing the genes of the aforementioned would had to have played a role in the development of the enfeebled masculinity on display today.

I can only hope the appearance of hardy Muslim men, who are unafraid of putting women in their place, will jolt the European male out of his craven subserviance to feminist doctrine.

Western liberalism,feminism=demographic problems of today's Europe. What's called feminism today happened before and it never lasted.
Smart(too much for his own good),educated,comfortable,meek(we have to show them we are better,set an example crap), not willing to procreate will be absorbed by stupid, uneducated and aggressive. It happened before. Nothing new under the sun.
 
Quote from Cesko:

Western liberalism,feminism=demographic problems of today's Europe. What's called feminism today happened before and it never lasted.
Smart(too much for his own good),educated,comfortable,meek(we have to show them we are better,set an example crap), not willing to procreate will be absorbed by stupid, uneducated and aggressive. It happened before. Nothing new under the sun.

European procreation is only one side of the demographic equation, though. The other, imo, more important, half is halting the demographic increase of 'the other'. By that, I mean ending non-European immigration is absolutely imperative. Otherwise you have a demographic 'arms race', in which Europeans try to outbreed Arabs and Africans. That is clearly insane.

So the problem of liberalism isn't only expressed in declining European fertility, but in Europe's inability to say no to immigration. No one's really found a way an inoffensive way to say 'no' to more immigration. Saying no implies that there is something 'wrong' with the members of various immigrant groups -- if there isn't, why wouldn't you want more? (Countries like Britain can use the 'overcrowding' excuse, but there is still a long way to go, even there, before the majority could be convinced that the place is 'full'.) Since few would dare to offend immigrants, immigration continues.

This insane, suicidal level of 'sensitivity' is basically a feminine trait. Women simply hate seeming insensitive to anyone. That alone speaks strongly against women -- at least the more feminine women -- being allowed to direct national policy. Where are the men who will stand up and say so, though? Sure, women will call such a man a 'mysoginist', and other colorful names, but obviously a real man could never 'hate' women in that sense. Whatever such a man's motives, this supposed 'hatred' cannot be the same as the 'hatred' he might express against, say, a racial minority: he can do without the latter, but he cannot do without the former. Therefore, men should not care about being denounced by shrill feminists (and limp-wristed pseudo-fag males).

That aside, maybe the most perplexing irony is that in all the end-of-the-world-as-we-know-it scenarios we used to hear about -- NATO v Pact showdown, nuclear annihilation etc -- I don't ever recall alarm being raised over demographic meltdown. And yet the facts were there all along and the same arguments could have been made thirty years ago. (Actually, they were being made thirty years ago -- Raspail's 'Camp of the Saints', for example --- only the masses were kept in the dark about it.) The sad truth is that if European's lose their countries and their civilization, they will have been complicit in their own destruction.
 
The sad truth is that if European's lose their countries and their civilization, they will have been complicit in their own destruction.
As I said that's the way it happened before.Personally I think things progressed too far. I can't see any "counter-trend" emerging so to speak.
Therefore, men should not care about being denounced by shrill feminists (and limp-wristed pseudo-fag males).
Try to do it and if you are in any position of power it's over for you(carreer).(Here in the U.S.).
On personal level all marriages I know, guys (no exception) are the bitches and women call all the shots.
 
Quote from Cesko:


As I said that's the way it happened before.Personally I think things progressed too far. I can't see any "counter-trend" emerging so to speak.

There may not be a counter-trend in the sense of widespread and organized opposition, but there is certainly an opposition movement. And it is gathering steam. The problem is, the biggest reason it is gathering steam is because the numbers of racial and cultural incompatibles is steadily increasing, and the more people can see how horrible the reality of living alongside such people is, the more oppose it. But that is 'cheating'. The trick is to convince people before they experience it for themselves. If we have to wait for everyone to experience it, then it will certainly be too late.

However, perhaps even there there is hope. The Jews secured (and held) the better part of Palestine for themselves even when they were only a minority of its population.


Try to do it and if you are in any position of power it's over for you(carreer).(Here in the U.S.).


Yes, brave pioneers will have to make the initial sacrifices, but if enough men join in the chorus, what can society do? Obviously things will quickly collapse without men to run them.

Career is not everything anyway. Western men tend to be so devoted to it because they have forgotten the art of good living. They don't know to achieve fulfillment outside of their careers. (Understandable, if you have feminist bitch for a wife.)

Perhaps the movement I speak of could be started by late middle-age professionals, who have likely already achieved a sufficient level of material success, and therefore if their careers are terminated for political reasons it won't have as great an effect on them as it would on someone just starting out. Plus, they will be doing a great thing for their civilization, which is an act that cannot be (or shouldn't be) measured simply in dollar terms. Eventually, a critical mass could be reached and like it or not, society, including ultrafeminists and their gay and philogay supporters, will have to accept it.

[qoute]On personal level all marriages I know, guys (no exception) are the bitches and women call all the shots.[/quote]

I know couples like that, too. It's unhappiness in the making. Eventually, one or the other will tire of it; he because it's no fun to be at the whim of a moody brat (which most shot-calling feminists really are), and she because she lacks a real man (not that she'll use such terms; to her, "something" will be "missing"). Transgressing the roles nature has set forth ultimately leaves both sexes unfufilled.
 
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