no, i wouldnt post the time and sales of the same contract...would I. but what month is it? front back?? there is a lot to consider..but thats what makes it fun..hopefully algo killers will be a part of trading. im pretty sure in some of the charts there are values on the y axis?? thats a big clue. i will say this and i am not trying to throw anyone off. i hate to see us retail not work together..hell we can help each other out if we would actually be honest..worrying about us is the least of our worries. once u see the algos patterns its a crap shoot to trade against because they get pissed when u start placing trades..limit orders on both sides..they dont know what to do..so they default to random trading probably wash trades then they widen the spread so they can attack with less volume. normally a 2 pt nq move might take..a 50 lot..they can get ut down to 10! all day everyday. anyway yes its nq, shows up in dow, es,copper a lot, spy, and lots others..its not typical mkt making and its disruptive..but toleested because exchanges need volume. thats why this whole thing is starting to make me sick..now there is talk of post trade clearing being immediate and compressed based on counterparty risk..dont think after u trade thst the otherside doesnt know where the trade originated...like your retail fcm! mine too..ill post a video this week of aggressive liquidity algos coming to fill me..or trying to
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im not sure if this is just my orders or others as well..but im suspect since wedbush is my executing fcm but not my actual fcm
who is we???? i thought what happened on elite stayed on elite? lol
international accounting standards..huh
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months ago when I started trading against this it always repeated itself time wise and strength wise. Since others have been trading against it as well as myself the size has come down significantly.. used to always be 120 to 90 contracts a pop and now it tries to do the same thing with 20 to 4o contracts but will throw in a 80 or 100 every once in awhile. The range has also been reduced. it used to range in the 2 pt up fire to 2 pt down fre for an average of 4 pts.. this has been reduced to 3 pts and the up fire and down fire overlap significantly now so you sometimes you are lucky to just get a point and half on the entire trade. None of this happened until a few months ago when I did two things. (what i mean is the algo never chagned until I did 2 things. 1. started talking about in forums and emailing people who trade. and 2. i wanted to learn the market oversight backgroudn at the cme. So i filed a report about it as a disruptive practice. so now it has chagned and the profit potential is not nearly as great as it once was. Yes I shot myself in the foot but I didn't really want to be up watching charts all day and night and also this same algo works itself in the day session but on a much alrger scale.. 300 to 800 contracts sometimes. and that is what I am really after.. having these predatory practices if not stopped at least looked at by real regulators. the CME PROTECTS it's member vehemently. by giving them small fines compared to you and me and no permamnent bans. Looka t Saraeo.. he was small time to the big companies. 40 million.. they make that eveery month or less. and citadel got hit with a 3.5 million fine??????? for 8 years of illegal trading? saraeo was hit with 35 million.. because he took that money from the MEMBERS. Saraeo was smart- but he clearly showed that in the utlra shrot term game.. it is about manipulating the ORDERS to get a desired outcome not trading you like you think or finding value. THIS IS WHAT the MEMBERS DO ON A DAILY BASIS. they are not trading like you and me. They scalp spread or a tick or 2 more over and over. that is why John RAMBO mahoney did 13% daily volume in australia. he was in and out repetitively every day and sometimes would hold overnight. MY POINT is that do not think the CME is really truly regulated and fair. it is not. just my 5 cents. there are lots of other tradeable algo patterns as well. CME is still better than FOREX for regulation but they are all bad
months ago when I started trading against this it always repeated itself time wise and strength wise. Since others have been trading against it as well as myself the size has come down significantly.. used to always be 120 to 90 contracts a pop and now it tries to do the same thing with 20 to 4o contracts but will throw in a 80 or 100 every once in awhile. The range has also been reduced. it used to range in the 2 pt up fire to 2 pt down fre for an average of 4 pts.. this has been reduced to 3 pts and the up fire and down fire overlap significantly now so you sometimes you are lucky to just get a point and half on the entire trade. None of this happened until a few months ago when I did two things. (what i mean is the algo never chagned until I did 2 things. 1. started talking about in forums and emailing people who trade. and 2. i wanted to learn the market oversight backgroudn at the cme. So i filed a report about it as a disruptive practice. so now it has chagned and the profit potential is not nearly as great as it once was. Yes I shot myself in the foot but I didn't really want to be up watching charts all day and night and also this same algo works itself in the day session but on a much alrger scale.. 300 to 800 contracts sometimes. and that is what I am really after.. having these predatory practices if not stopped at least looked at by real regulators. the CME PROTECTS it's member vehemently. by giving them small fines compared to you and me and no permamnent bans. Looka t Saraeo.. he was small time to the big companies. 40 million.. they make that eveery month or less. and citadel got hit with a 3.5 million fine??????? for 8 years of illegal trading? saraeo was hit with 35 million.. because he took that money from the MEMBERS. Saraeo was smart- but he clearly showed that in the utlra shrot term game.. it is about manipulating the ORDERS to get a desired outcome not trading you like you think or finding value. THIS IS WHAT the MEMBERS DO ON A DAILY BASIS. they are not trading like you and me. They scalp spread or a tick or 2 more over and over. that is why John RAMBO mahoney did 13% daily volume in australia. he was in and out repetitively every day and sometimes would hold overnight. MY POINT is that do not think the CME is really truly regulated and fair. it is not. just my 5 cents. there are lots of other tradeable algo patterns as well. CME is still better than FOREX for regulation but they are all bad
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