Quote from jmccain:
Elder did not ask you to code his indicators. He obviously prefers to build them himself inhouse. It's his right.
As for the name, he offered you a solution that made it clear to everyone that these were your take on his indicators and were not to be confused with his company. (ie: "Ellis on Elder")
Quote from guy2:
This is true... I need to be careful that his "i will hurt you" statement is not intended as physical harm to me. I'll be watching over my shoulder.
How does someone like this become a psychiatrist?
Quote from jem:
Elder apparantly has some unresolved issues in the following areas:
Intellectual Property
marketing
self esteem and
self control
Perhaps he is to trading discipline what Jimmy Swaggart was to sexual morality.
He preaches it because he feels the pain of the other side.

Quote from guy2:
Why did he enter into negotiations with me then with respect to my original proposal? (i.e. that I program and provide the indicators for eSignal.)
His solution was based on the lie that he owned the name which subsequently turned out not to be true. He duped me into believing that.
I had already established search engine rankings and keywords based on a lot of hard work and he wanted me to hand that over to him for no compensation and he tried to dupe me into doing that by lying about the ownership of the name.
Quote from jmccain:
I'm not sure what your problem is. You think Alexander ELDER shoud go around every web site in the universe and buy his own name to make sure that people don't impersonate him?
You're just trying to mooch off his name & reputation. He was nice enough to allow you to do it as long as you make it clear that you are not affiliated with him.
Negotiations are just that, negotiations, they're not contracts. You did the work first and then started your negotiations knowing full well that he would not give you the time of day if you approach him BEFORE starting the work. (Because he already has staff in-house that can code these indicators for him.)