Alabama Mom's ObamaCare Horror Story

[Clubber Lang]

Quote from bigarrow:

That was an irrational personal attack that has nothing to do with the subject.

It wasn't a personal attack unless you are a liberal (which you claim you aren't if I recall correctly).

Question though- why do you believe the government can offer better healthcare at reduced rates when it's a proven fact that all other government agencies operate like shit and at astronomical costs?

 

[bigarrow]

Quote from Clubber Lang:


This is why liberals like yourself fail at most everything. You rely on the government to spoon feed you and make everything better. When anyone with common sense or a history book can see that the government fucks up almost everything they touch.

Sounds like a personal attack to me.

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from Clubber Lang:

All the ACA did was take money from hard working taxpayers and their good healthcare plans and lower the standard for everyone just to insure people who won't get off their ass and get a job.

Socialism- equal distribution of misery.

Quote from Clubber Lang:

Yeah, that's just what we need. Because Congress does such a great job when they "get to work" on things.

This is why liberals like yourself fail at most everything. You rely on the government to spoon feed you and make everything better. When anyone with common sense or a history book can see that the government fucks up almost everything they touch.

THIS!

 

[Lucrum]

This is only the beginning/tip of the iceberg.

Our congress does not solve problems they only create MORE problems, mostly through unintended consequences. Their idea of a program's "success" isn't measured by whether or not it achieved the original goal, but by how big the program's annual budget is. Just look at the Dept of ED. or the DEA as perfect indisputable examples.

It's all down hill from here folks. And no amount of "hope" is going to "change" that inconvenient truth.

 

[kid.fx.cross]

well, I have two parents on social security and medicare. It's a fucked up deal when you think about it, but it has stabilized their old age. So I wouldn't go so far as to say "everything" government does is bad.

If it wasn't for medicare and social security taxes they'd be twice as rich as they are now

but it was nice getting a free 220k pacemaker

 

[Lucrum]

Quote from bigarrow:

Sounds like a personal attack to me.

 

[kid.fx.cross]

my grandmother grew up on the farm. The only cash she saw her whole life was what she could get selling eggs out of the henhouse.

when they came up with "Social Security"

My grandfather said, "She picks up her check at one end of town, and by the time she walks to the other side of town, it's all gone."

Is that a bad thing?

 

[bigarrow]

Quote from kid.fx.cross:

So I wouldn't go so far as to say "everything" government does is bad.

Oh course not, it's a stupid statement they make. You can travel anywhere in America and not have to worry about unsafe drinking water, food poisoning, fire and police protection, child labor sweat shops and on and on all due to government regulations. Of course there's waste and mismanagement guess what it's in private industry also. There isn't going to be perfection. Some things in a society can only be done through government.

 

[Clubber Lang]

Quote from bigarrow:

You can travel anywhere in America and not have to worry about unsafe drinking water, food poisoning, fire and police protection, child labor sweat shops and on and on all due to government regulations..... Some things in a society can only be done through government.

Those "good things" you mentioned that the government did are all true. But they were done many decades ago or longer.
Our government has gotten so big that most of the shit they do now is designed to take your money, take your privacy, or take away your constitutional rights.

 

[Clubber Lang]

Quote from kid.fx.cross:

well, I have two parents on social security and medicare. It's a fucked up deal when you think about it, but it has stabilized their old age. So I wouldn't go so far as to say "everything" government does is bad.

I'm glad our generation has paid to stabilize their old age.

But where is the money going to come from to stabilize OUR old age? SS will be bankrupt before I even retire, and all the money I paid in will be long gone.