al-Qaida behind Madrid attack?

Exactly, Clinton is gone, and so shoudl Bush be gone.

Bush had his chance, he fucked up.

Time for a change in leadership.


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Think if we had spent all the money used in removing Saddam on real terrorist threats that we might have had more progress in stopping Al-Qaida
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Exactly! If Clinton & Co. had only done something outside of the oval office we might not have even had 9/11. And some want to go back to those blissful ostrich days.
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no holds barred?? boy, liberals would have a hay day over that.
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Remember, we're talking about WAR here, if we are going to win, we have to be serious.

There's no crying in baseball. :D
 
Quote from ARogueTrader:

Exactly, Clinton is gone, and so shoudl Bush be gone.

Bush had his chance, he fucked up.

Time for a change in leadership.
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How many attacks have there been on our soil or embassies or military or other interests since 9/11 and how many before?
 
Quote from sulong:

Remember, we're talking about WAR here, if we are going to win, we have to be serious.

There's no crying in baseball. :D
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I agree and this was almost exactly the same argument back in the Viet Nam days, only this time we better get it right. There might not be a graceful pullout.
 
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And that's why when the chips are down, which they have been since 9/11, fighting beats just talking about it. If we had fought back when we had first been attacked, we wouldn't be where we are today. But oh no, we need to talk with them, we need to negoiate.

Finally the military is doing what talkers couldn't.
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maybe the US (and its allies) should stay out of nation building. i doubt the seeds of hate sprung from our 'lifestyle'. if i grew up in Iraq my grandparents would have memories of British rule and subjectgation by force (machines guns, mustard gas,etc.). my parents and history class would teach me of how the US, Brits and French took 2/3 oil in partnership deals, installed puppet kings, etc. but this time our intentions are different and they should like us....

but we wouldnt be in this situation if we just let the mililtary loose on the world? damn dude where did all these guys get weapons, training?

i agree we now need to take it to the terrorists but we also do not need to create new terrorist along the way that our children will have to deal with.
 
"How many attacks have there been on our soil or embassies or military or other interests since 9/11 and how many before?"

Here's a better question:

How many of the attacks that you speak of above have occured under CIA Director George Tenet's watch?

Answer: ALL of THEM!

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I guess you have never heard that all great Empires have come to an end when they have overextended themselves and gotten involved in Nation-Building, eh?

Very thoughtful post, FXtrading.
 
America doesn't use the same date naming system as the rest of the world. It would be more meaningful for the guys in Saudi Arabia--oh, sorry, Afghanistan, to have attacked Spain 119 days after 11 September. Because they'd probably note it as 11-9-2001, not 9-11-2001.

Not to draw flames, but I know my buds overseas all use a different date naming convention than us...

Although the massive amount of US media specials that splashed "9-11" in big red, white and blue logos definitely made an impression.
 
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I have also read that there are exactly 911 days between September 11'th and when the explosions went off today in Madrid.

Can anyone confirm that?
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Aren't you the computer programmer. Can't you figger that out?
 
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