Look I don't think Bush is great president either, but you have to admit the Democrats will play politics with everything. Even if it puts the nations safety in jeopardy.Quote from Thunderdog:
Since when has Bush been a "typical left winger?" His entire presidency has been built on the modus operandi you attribute to the "typical left winger."
Oh please stop it. Gore and the rest of the Democrats know Iraq has supported global terrorism for decades. They are now trying to revise history for political gain. This is putting the entire nation at risk.Quote from Sparohok:
I have no idea how this video makes Gore a loser. If you actually listen to what he's saying, he's dead right.
Gore was very well known as resident Iraq hawk within the Clinton administration and even earlier. Everything he says in this video is an accurate indictment of terrible, hypocritical US policy toward Iraq, which did much to strengthen the threat they ultimately represented. To anyone who has been paying attention for the last 20 years, this stuff should be no surprise. Gore was right, and history sustained his criticism.
Gore recognized the threat Iraq represented and the moral bankruptcy of our Iraq policy long before the Bush family did. However, that doesn't mean that Gore as president would have invented nonexistent ties between Iraq and 9/11, fabricated evidence for a continuing WMD program, or entered a war of choice to invade Iraq and depose Saddam Hussein.
I'm not saying Gore is perfect, but outsmarting the Bush family is a pretty low hurdle to reach, and he's certainly done that.
Martin
Scientific views change. Remember when hydrogenated vegetable oil (margarine) was all the rage? It was the state of knowledge at the time. Science evolves. It progresses. You go with the best current thinking until better current thinking surfaces. To say it isn't so is patently disingenuous. Equally disingenuous are those who cherry pick what suits them. Global warming doesn't suit most shorter-term commercial interests very well. Oddly enough, Republicans in the aggregate don't put much stock into global warming. Coincidence? Nah.Quote from trader1966:
Look I don't think Bush is great president either, but you have to admit the Democrats will play politics with everything. Even if it puts the nations safety in jeopardy.
The previous poster is correct, I remember grade school textbooks about the coming Ice Age. Al Gore is a political schlock and nothing more.
Quote from Sparohok:
I have no idea how this video makes Gore a loser. If you actually listen to what he's saying, he's dead right.
Gore was very well known as resident Iraq hawk within the Clinton administration and even earlier. Everything he says in this video is an accurate indictment of terrible, hypocritical US policy toward Iraq, which did much to strengthen the threat they ultimately represented. To anyone who has been paying attention for the last 20 years, this stuff should be no surprise. Gore was right, and history sustained his criticism.
Gore recognized the threat Iraq represented and the moral bankruptcy of our Iraq policy long before the Bush family did. However, that doesn't mean that Gore as president would have invented nonexistent ties between Iraq and 9/11, fabricated evidence for a continuing WMD program, or entered a war of choice to invade Iraq and depose Saddam Hussein.
I'm not saying Gore is perfect, but outsmarting the Bush family is a pretty low hurdle to reach, and he's certainly done that.
Martin
Science evolves, of course it does, but a complete 180 in thirty short years seems much more like politics than science. If a Democrat is elected president you will never hear about Global Warming again, sort of like the homelessness crises suddenly disappearing when Clinton was elected.Quote from Thunderdog:
Scientific views change. Remember when hydrogenated vegetable oil (margarine) was all the rage? It was the state of knowledge at the time. Science evolves. It progresses. You go with the best current thinking until better current thinking surfaces. To say it isn't so is patently disingenuous. Equally disingenuous are those who cherry pick what suits them. Global warming doesn't suit most shorter-term commercial interests very well. Oddly enough, Republicans in the aggregate don't put much stock into global warming. Coincidence? Nah.
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Scientific views change. Remember when hydrogenated vegetable oil (margarine) was all the rage? It was the state of knowledge at the time. Science evolves. It progresses. You go with the best current thinking until better current thinking surfaces. To say it isn't so is patently disingenuous. Equally disingenuous are those who cherry pick what suits them. Global warming doesn't suit most shorter-term commercial interests very well. Oddly enough, Republicans in the aggregate don't put much stock into global warming. Coincidence? Nah.
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No doubt, it gives you great comfort that your view is shared by the thinking man's Decider.
Groovy. Just remember that the same lobbyists who were working on behalf of the tobacco companies are now focusing their efforts to squash the premise of global warming. And we all know that the tobacco lobbyists were nothing if not sincere. You're in good hands.Quote from fhl:
Of course republicans don't want to make long term decisions based on dubious science of global warming. Just like they didn't want to about global cooling. Only the dull in aggregate would consider this a liability.