Al Gore - Democratic Party candidate in 2008.
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Jayford: I watched both the Fox and CNBC discussions of this topic, and both dismissed it due to what it would do to the party. It actually got Tucker Carlson laughing. His exact quote was "C'mon?!" as in "you can't be serious" it could actually happen.
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April 1, 2008
SouthAmerica: On the other hand Mario Como is so concerned that neither Democratic Party candidate will be able to win in November that he wrote a piece for the Washington Post asking the candidates to make a deal that for now on they are going to be nice to each other and they would also make a deal to place both candidates on the same ticket.
I already can see the ticket Clinton/Clinton and Obama as the most irrelevant VP in US history.
(On the above ticket you decide who should call the shots Bill or Hillary).
If the ticket is the other way around Obama and Clinton/Clinton - who still is the real president here?
The senior politicians of the Democratic Party are realizing that the election of November 2008 is slipping away day by day.
I am 100 percent sure that at this point both candidates are complete damaged goods and neither one can will in November 2008. If the Democratic Party is so naïve and blind all they have to do is field one of these candidates in November 2008 and go down in defeat.
After that the Democratic Party would have about 2 years to figure out why they lost the presidential election of 2008.
Here are some of the possibilities that the talking heads can talk about after the election and the political analysts can write about after the Democratic Party defeat in November 2008:
1) Why the Democratic Party lost the election?
2) The self-destruction of the Democratic Party in 2008.
3) Here is why the Democratic Party split along the lines of gender and race and the party imploded before the general election of 2008.
4) The Democratic Party thought that bringing race as an issue it would work on its favor in the presidential election of 2008, and instead the race issue ended up splitting the country for years to come.
5) The Democratic Party thought that they would make history by electing the first woman or the first black man as president of the United States. But instead the Democratic Party lost an election that was on the bag.
6) The Democratic Party wanted to make political history in November 2008 by electing the first woman or the first black man, but instead they made another type of history since a Republican Party victory in November 2008 allowed that party the opportunity to push the Supreme Court all the way to the radical right.
7) The Democratic Party and the presidential election of 2008; a classic case study about how to win a battle, and lose the war.
I could go on and on⦠But I hope you guys got the point.
If Al Gore is drafted at the Democratic Party convention as the nominee for the general election â I am sure Al Gore can win that election in November 2008 with a strong mandate.
You donât have to be a rocket scientist to observe the obvious that Hillary and Obama canât win the general election in November 2008, because they are both damaged goods and the situation on the Democratic Party is beyond repair before the general election.
The Republican Party must be glad that the Democratic Party canât figure out even the most obvious things.
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Arnie: Well, looks like Algore put the kabosh on running on 60 Minutes last night. Sorry S.A. Maybe in 4 more years.
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SouthAmerica: I did watch the 60 minutes interview, but Al Gore did not close the door.
When she asked him is he would consider running for president on the future.
Al Gore answered that 59 is the new 60 (she told the audience in the beginning of the interview that on the following day Al Gore was turning 60 years old.)
And that future could be the Democratic Party convention in August of 2008.
Al Gore could have said that he was finished with the business of running for president, but he did not say that â he did not ruled out completely, and he left open the possibility that he will run again.
Maybe he already know something that he canât tell in public because he has to wait until the Democratic Party convention for the next step on his political career.
Al Gore looks more like a presidential candidate than ever before.
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Jayford: I watched both the Fox and CNBC discussions of this topic, and both dismissed it due to what it would do to the party. It actually got Tucker Carlson laughing. His exact quote was "C'mon?!" as in "you can't be serious" it could actually happen.
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April 1, 2008
SouthAmerica: On the other hand Mario Como is so concerned that neither Democratic Party candidate will be able to win in November that he wrote a piece for the Washington Post asking the candidates to make a deal that for now on they are going to be nice to each other and they would also make a deal to place both candidates on the same ticket.
I already can see the ticket Clinton/Clinton and Obama as the most irrelevant VP in US history.
(On the above ticket you decide who should call the shots Bill or Hillary).
If the ticket is the other way around Obama and Clinton/Clinton - who still is the real president here?
The senior politicians of the Democratic Party are realizing that the election of November 2008 is slipping away day by day.
I am 100 percent sure that at this point both candidates are complete damaged goods and neither one can will in November 2008. If the Democratic Party is so naïve and blind all they have to do is field one of these candidates in November 2008 and go down in defeat.
After that the Democratic Party would have about 2 years to figure out why they lost the presidential election of 2008.
Here are some of the possibilities that the talking heads can talk about after the election and the political analysts can write about after the Democratic Party defeat in November 2008:
1) Why the Democratic Party lost the election?
2) The self-destruction of the Democratic Party in 2008.
3) Here is why the Democratic Party split along the lines of gender and race and the party imploded before the general election of 2008.
4) The Democratic Party thought that bringing race as an issue it would work on its favor in the presidential election of 2008, and instead the race issue ended up splitting the country for years to come.
5) The Democratic Party thought that they would make history by electing the first woman or the first black man as president of the United States. But instead the Democratic Party lost an election that was on the bag.
6) The Democratic Party wanted to make political history in November 2008 by electing the first woman or the first black man, but instead they made another type of history since a Republican Party victory in November 2008 allowed that party the opportunity to push the Supreme Court all the way to the radical right.
7) The Democratic Party and the presidential election of 2008; a classic case study about how to win a battle, and lose the war.
I could go on and on⦠But I hope you guys got the point.
If Al Gore is drafted at the Democratic Party convention as the nominee for the general election â I am sure Al Gore can win that election in November 2008 with a strong mandate.
You donât have to be a rocket scientist to observe the obvious that Hillary and Obama canât win the general election in November 2008, because they are both damaged goods and the situation on the Democratic Party is beyond repair before the general election.
The Republican Party must be glad that the Democratic Party canât figure out even the most obvious things.
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Arnie: Well, looks like Algore put the kabosh on running on 60 Minutes last night. Sorry S.A. Maybe in 4 more years.
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SouthAmerica: I did watch the 60 minutes interview, but Al Gore did not close the door.
When she asked him is he would consider running for president on the future.
Al Gore answered that 59 is the new 60 (she told the audience in the beginning of the interview that on the following day Al Gore was turning 60 years old.)
And that future could be the Democratic Party convention in August of 2008.
Al Gore could have said that he was finished with the business of running for president, but he did not say that â he did not ruled out completely, and he left open the possibility that he will run again.
Maybe he already know something that he canât tell in public because he has to wait until the Democratic Party convention for the next step on his political career.
Al Gore looks more like a presidential candidate than ever before.
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Yes, I noticed that Al Gore didn't COMPLETELY close the door, but he surely didn't look like he was interested in the job now. The point is moot imo as I still cling to the mainstream belief that no matter how damaged Obama is, the Democrats are not going to ignore 40 million votes and pick Gore, who could very well lose! The Dems are supremely skilled at losing elections they should win, but crushing the Party long term is something I don't think they will do.
I also believe that Mac is in a good position now, but that does not mean Obama cannot win. He is in a dead heat now, even with the Dem bickering. If the economy is uglier in November, or Iraq gets worse (both possible), Mac could drop quick. Obama's biggest obstacle is Florida and Ohio. Just don't see how he could take either, and Hillary is already toast. She is just showing the true Clinton colors. Its all about them, not the good of the Party or the Nation.
I also believe that Mac is in a good position now, but that does not mean Obama cannot win. He is in a dead heat now, even with the Dem bickering. If the economy is uglier in November, or Iraq gets worse (both possible), Mac could drop quick. Obama's biggest obstacle is Florida and Ohio. Just don't see how he could take either, and Hillary is already toast. She is just showing the true Clinton colors. Its all about them, not the good of the Party or the Nation.
They will all support Obama for sure eventually, but Hillary bowing out before she absolutely has to? No chance in hell.
She would have to just barely win Pennsylvania, and then get slaughtered in NC (this could happen). She would have zero argument at this point.
Anything short of that, she will fight like the bulldog she is. She doesn't care if she brings down the party as long as there is even the slightest chance she would be Prez, and there is no chance of that.
She would have to just barely win Pennsylvania, and then get slaughtered in NC (this could happen). She would have zero argument at this point.
Anything short of that, she will fight like the bulldog she is. She doesn't care if she brings down the party as long as there is even the slightest chance she would be Prez, and there is no chance of that.
Hillary will not stop. The Clintons do not see themselves as servants of the party, but the party as servants of them.
And realistically there is no reason for her to quit. It seems that almost every day some new unsavory revelation comes out about Barack Obama. Who knows when something may come out that is the last straw for a large chunk of voters (and delegates).
This Algore mania is just media speculation. Although I do believe the Democrat leadership (Dean, Pelosi, Reid) are all about the dumbest people in politics, I doubt they would be stupid enough to destroy the party by letting Algore jump in the middle of this fight. A lot of Democrats have invested a lot of money, time and emotions in their respective candidates, and they would not easily toss all of that aside for Algore.
And realistically there is no reason for her to quit. It seems that almost every day some new unsavory revelation comes out about Barack Obama. Who knows when something may come out that is the last straw for a large chunk of voters (and delegates).
This Algore mania is just media speculation. Although I do believe the Democrat leadership (Dean, Pelosi, Reid) are all about the dumbest people in politics, I doubt they would be stupid enough to destroy the party by letting Algore jump in the middle of this fight. A lot of Democrats have invested a lot of money, time and emotions in their respective candidates, and they would not easily toss all of that aside for Algore.
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