Al Gore - Democratic Party candidate in 2008.

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Jayford: The reason why I don't believe Obama would play 2nd fiddle to Gore is he thinks he can win now! The guy is just too driven (power hungry maybe?) to be VP if he thinks he should be Prez.

Read an interesting article via RealClearPolitics the other day that said no way would Obama or Hillary take the VP slot this time around. Obama would rather run for Illinois Governor in 2010, which most believe he would win with ease. This would give him needed executive experience for a run in 2016. He would rather be the executive calling the shots, than a powerless VP.

Clinton would either do the same in NY, or take a senior Senate position and sit tight.

Both Illinois and NY have weak Governors now. Obama or Hillary will be a governor in two years (maybe both).


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March 17, 2008

SouthAmerica: That would be just fine with me: Obama governor of Illinois, and Hillary governor of New York.

Obama it is just a rookie right now, and if he is the nominee he is going to get his ass kicked in November 2008. I am sure of that.

Obama and Hillary are both damaged goods at this point, and neither candidate can win the general election.

On the other hand, if the Democratic Party has any common sense left, they should draft Al Gore to be the nominee. Al Gore can kick ass in November 2008 and I am sure that he can win with a strong mandate.

Basically, you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

One extra thing Al Gore has going on his behalf is that many supporters would vote for him this time around instead of Ralph Nader – Al Gore can eliminate Ralph Nader influence on the result in November 2008.

If the Democratic Party goes with Obama or Hillary – it does not matter which one is the nominee the supporters of the other candidate are not going to vote for that nominee, and once again Ralph Nader will play a major role in getting votes from the Democratic Party.

Hillary or Obama are going for certain defeat in November 2008.

In that case in December of 2008, we will be discussing how foolish the Democratic Party has become, since they can’t figure out even how to win an election that was on the bag.

But, Al Gore would win that same election in November 2008 with a mandate.

But you can’t count on Americans to have common sense for sure, not even a minimum – I still wondering what kind of people would vote to reelect someone such as George W. Bush?

I guess 59 million fools!!!!!!


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SteveD: Perfect example: Last year Bush proposed some changes to Social Security for the long term......Dems went nuts...no way...no way....but did they even offer any of their own solutions?....NONE

… One of the great problems facing America today?


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SouthAmerica: The Social Security System is fine for now.

The Medicare system is the one that needs to be fixed ASAP.

One of the major problems that America face today is that they have only 2 major political parties and they are the wings of the same bird.

The United States needs very badly to create immediately at lest 2 more major political parties to give a better choice of candidates to the American people.

Al Gore is my first choice for the general election in November 2008, but if he is not on the race I will be supporting Ralph Nader.

If the Democratic Party wants my support in November 2008, then I am not settling for anything less than Al Gore – give me Al Gore or goodbye.


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Quote from southamerica:

If the Democratic Party wants my support in November 2008, then I am not settling for anything less than Al Gore – give me Al Gore or goodbye.
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SA, are you an American citizen? Can you even vote in this country?
 
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are you a traitor neocon? look what your boys have done to our monetary system. can you vote? please don't.. we don't need more neocon solutions.
 
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March 19, 2008

SouthAmerica: A presidential ticket for November 2008: Al Gore / Mike Bloomberg it would be fine with me.

Al Gore for President and Mike Bloomberg as his VP.

Let’s hope that they are talking about that possibility on their meeting of March 18, 2008 – I am sure they would beat John McCain with a strong mandate.

Hope is the last one to die.


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“Gore Makes Surprise Visit To Bloomberg”
NY1 News - March 19, 2008

Former Vice President Al Gore stopped by City Hall Tuesday afternoon for an unexpected visit with Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

Gore told reporters that the two discussed the climate crisis during their hour-long meeting.

Since Bloomberg’s announced that he will not run for President, political speculation about the meeting was kept to a minimum.

Bloomberg introduced Gore as "the next president" last year at the TriBeCa Film Festival, as shown in the above picture.

http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.jsp?stid=8&aid=79544


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Gore/Bloomie?

That would be a powerful one.

Are you implying they would run as Indies, or they would get the Dem ticket?

The odds of the Dem party ignoring all the voters and choosing Gore are astronomical as it is, but not even giving Hill or Bama the VP slot?

Hmm....?

This is what I think is going to happen. If Obama does not implode with all the revelations popping up around him, he gets the nod because he has the delegates AND popular vote. Hillary can only get the popular vote if Florida is a redo, even with a landslide in Pennsylvania. Florida won't happen. She can't get more delegates than Obama.Most political analysts (via RCP site) believe that Howie Dean and the Dems will not give Hillary the nod unless she has at least the popular vote. Otherwise, it would completely disenfranchise ALL the Obama supporters. For the same reason, they will not choose Gore as this would piss off almost everyone who voted for both of the previous two, and make the Democratic party process a joke (which it is anyway). It is true that some analysts promote the Gore idea, but they are FAR in the minority.

So anyway, I say its Obama, and Hillary will not be VP. Hillary only gets the nomination if this latest Obama news gains additional traction (the pastor and Rezko stuff).

However, Gore/Bloomberg as independents? They certainly have the money! They are both liked as well (well enough anyway). Not sure Bloomie would want the Veep slot though.
 
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March 19, 2008

SouthAmerica: Reply to Jayford

I hope that first the Democratic Party fires Howard Dean and replace him with someone such as Bill Bradley – they have to do that ASAP, before the convention.

At the Democratic Party convention they should draft the Al Gore / Mike Bloomberg ticket to represent the Democratic Party in the general election.

It has to be Al Gore / Mike Bloomberg and not the other way around. Al Gore for president is what is going to put the ticket over the top.

Mike Bloomberg as the VP on the ticket can help win Florida in the general election. I don’t think Al Gore would even consider to be VP once again when it is his turn to be president and he has all the credentials to do it.

I assume that Mike Bloomberg would understand that if he is the candidate for president he would lose it because he is too close to Israel and that would get on the way of his chances for becoming US president. But if he is the VP on an Al Gore ticket people would be electing Al Gore for president, and Bloomberg’s connections to Israel would become an asset to help win Florida on the general election.

Most people that I know who live in the New York/New Jersey Metropolitan area thinks that Mike Bloomberg has been a very good Mayor for New York City.

Mike Bloomberg as the VP on an Al Gore ticket also might help bring in many independent votes at the general election that might have gone otherwise to John McCain.

As we discussed on March 17, 2008 – It would be just fine with me if Barack Obama becomes the new governor of Illinois, and Hillary Clinton the new governor of New York. (Maybe as part of the deal Mike Bloomberg can support Hillary Clinton for her to become the new Governor of NY on the next election cycle.)

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SouthAmerica,

I agree with all of your post above, except the first two sentences, simply because I continue to believe that it can never happen. It does not matter if I think they would be a stronger ticket (I do). What I, or you think about their power is irrelevant. Back to my same (old) argument, neither one ran for the nomination, and millions of Americans have voted for their choice.

I do think these two could win on an independent ticket. Bloomie already looked into this for several months in fact.

I also think it would be fine if Hillary and Obama became Govs in 2010, but that would mean McCain or an Indy in the White House.

BTW, Hillary would take NY easy, without Bloomies help. He is very popular there, but believe it or not, so is Hillary.

Jay
 
Well, I'll be ........

SA, looks like you may be right after all.

Mark Tomasik: Don’t discount Gore-led ticket
By Mark Tomasik (Contact)
Monday, March 24, 2008


U.S. Rep. Tim Mahoney

U.S. Rep. Tim Mahoney, whose district includes much of Martin and St. Lucie counties, is hoping he won’t have to attend the Democratic Party national convention in Denver in August.

If he does go, that will mean the Democrats still haven’t decided a nominee for the presidential election. And if neither Sen. Hillary Clinton nor Sen. Barack Obama has clinched the nomination by August, Mahoney says we may see a brokered convention, meaning the nominee could emerge from a negotiated settlement.

“If it (the nomination process) goes into the convention, don’t be surprised if someone different is at the top of the ticket,” Mahoney said.

A compromise candidate could be someone such as former vice president Al Gore, Mahoney said last week during a meeting with this news organization’s editorial board.

If either Clinton or Obama suggested to a deadlocked convention a ticket of Gore-Clinton or Gore-Obama, the Democratic Party would accept it, Mahoney said.

Mahoney, who is one of the superdelegates who gets to cast a vote at the convention, hasn’t endorsed a candidate. He said he doesn’t intend to endorse anyone because “I don’t see it as my job as a district representative” to endorse a nominee for the presidential race.

If neither Clinton nor Obama has enough delegates to secure the nomination by the time the convention starts Aug. 25, Mahoney will have to cast a superdelegate vote for someone. Superdelegates make up about one-fifth of the total number of delegates to the convention and are free to support any candidate for nomination. Most superdelegates are current or former elected officeholders or party officials.

As an uncommitted superdelegate, Mahoney said he has been wooed by Clinton and Obama for an endorsement. Clinton has been the more aggressive solicitor, Mahoney said.

Mahoney said he has met twice with Obama. He has met more often with Clinton. Two weeks ago, Mahoney attended a cocktail party at Clinton’s house in Washington, D.C., he said. Mahoney told of how impressed he is by Clinton’s commitment to helping people and her human touch. When Clinton learned that Mahoney’s daughter is interested in horses, she called the girl to encourage her interest, Mahoney said.

While Mahoney hasn’t committed to either contender, he clearly likes Clinton and her stance on issues. He praised her for having a grasp of matters of importance to Floridians, especially homeowners insurance reform. (He also made the point that Sen. John McCain, the apparent Republican presidential nominee, is the only candidate in either party not to support national reform of homeowners insurance.)

Mahoney described Clinton as being “incredibly bright, very personable” and having “an unbelievable grasp of policy” during his meetings with her.

Mahoney said he had intended to skip the convention because “I have better things to do in my district” than attend what recently has become a glorified pep rally. He will stay away if his superdelegate vote isn’t needed. Meanwhile, he’s lobbying to get the results of the Jan. 29 Florida primary vote to count.

The national Democratic Party and its chairman, Howard Dean, stripped Florida of its delegates as punishment for violating party rules by moving up the state’s primary date from March to Jan. 29. Dean banned the Democratic candidates from campaigning in Florida. Still, a record 1.75 million Democrats voted in the Florida primary. Clinton won by 17 percentage points.

A recent statewide poll of registered Democratic voters by the St. Petersburg Times and its television partner showed that the campaigning boycott of Florida had little effect on Democratic voters’ choices in the Jan. 29 primary. The poll showed that 56 percent said the lack of campaigning had “no effect at all” on their vote. Also, 77 percent of the people polled said that it is “very important” to them that the results of the Jan. 29 primary count.

Mirroring our editorial board’s position and the poll results, Mahoney said the Jan. 29 results should be counted and the full slate of delegates should be seated at the convention.

“The delegates have to be treated fairly and responsibly and given full weight,” Mahoney said.

The St. Petersburg Times poll showed that one in four state Democrats might not vote for the party’s nominee if Florida delegates aren’t given a full say in the presidential nomination. That would seem to indicate that all Florida Democratic candidates for office in November could be in jeopardy of losing support.

Mahoney dismisses this notion, saying the issues are too important for Democratic voters to either sit out the election or vote Republican. Democrats need to first clean up the mess they made in Florida and honor the votes of the Jan. 29 primary before they try to convince voters they successfully can govern the nation.

mark.tomasik@scripps.com
 
Hillary is imploding... any other candidate would have to immediately drop out after telling such a blatant lie. the media loves torturing us with hillary though so who knows. but.. it sure seems like she is done.

i went on record last spring saying gore would be ushered in as a white knight. all that is needed now is another obama scandal and... ummm... that's almost a certainty.
 
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