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Al Gore - Democratic Party candidate in 2008.
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sputdr: The American media wastes so much time talking about potential candidates because people like you waste so much time talking about potential candidates.
Get it?
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November 8, 2006
SouthAmerica: The mainstream media have been talking about potential presidential candidates for 2008 for a few months already.
But the actual race for 2008 is supposed to start only tomorrow morning.
I believe that the democratic presidential "dream ticket for 2008" is:
âAl Gore for president and Bill Clinton for vice president.â
No Republican ticket would be able to beat that democratic ticket.
Then in the 2nd term Bill Clinton drops from Al Goreâs ticket and Hillary Clinton replaces him as the VP.
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sputdr: The American media wastes so much time talking about potential candidates because people like you waste so much time talking about potential candidates.
Get it?
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November 8, 2006
SouthAmerica: The mainstream media have been talking about potential presidential candidates for 2008 for a few months already.
But the actual race for 2008 is supposed to start only tomorrow morning.
I believe that the democratic presidential "dream ticket for 2008" is:
âAl Gore for president and Bill Clinton for vice president.â
No Republican ticket would be able to beat that democratic ticket.
Then in the 2nd term Bill Clinton drops from Al Goreâs ticket and Hillary Clinton replaces him as the VP.
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November 11, 2006
SouthAmerica: I wrote a number of times even long before I started posting on this forum about the economic âParadigm Shiftâ that has occurred in the US economy from what we had during the Clinton administration to the last 6 years of the Bush administration.
Bill Clinton and Al Gore had a better understanding of how the new global economy works including the internet, the information superhighway, the impact of global warming, and so onâ¦.
Bill Clinton and Al Gore were leading the United States into a better future.
Then came along George W. Bush and his administration of highly incompetent people.
What a disaster this crew has been not only for the United States, but also to the rest of the world.
Why the United States needs a team with the vision of Bill Clinton and Al Gore?
First, this a proven team and they did a lot of good things for the United States during their 8 years in office. Al Gore was instrumental in putting the spotlight on the development of the modern internet and the current information superhighway â these guys understood the importance of this new tools and they helped in the fast implementation of a plan to make internet connections readily available not only on the American school systems, but also on public libraries around the country.
They helped connect the American educational system to the new way of communicating of the future.
Al Gore has been a champion for a long time on the fight against global warming. He understand better than any other politician that we have reached a point of a global crisis, and something drastic has to be done to correct this problem.
Donât get me wrong if it was possible I would like to see Bill Clinton running for president in 2008, but he canât run again because of the term limits for US presidents imposed by the US Constitution.
Why should Al Gore ask Bill Clinton to be on his ticket as the vice president in 2008?
In the last 6 years George W. Bush and his administration have trashed the United States clout and reputation around the world. A lot of damage has been done in that regard since Bill Clinton left the White House.
Bill Clinton would be essential for the new Al Gore administration starting in January 2009, and he would play a very important role. Bill Clinton is considered to be a superstar, and he would be welcomed everywhere around the world â and his job would be to help repair the United States reputation around the world - all the damage caused by the Bush administration during their 8 years of humongous incompetence and catastrophic foreign policies.
Al Gore did win the presidential election of 2000, but the election was stolen from him one way or another. I am sure that Al Gore can win big in November 2008 if he includes Bill Clinton as the vice president on his ticket.
The democrats would have in the bag the presidential election of 2008 if the ticket includes:
âAl Gore for President and Bill Clinton for Vice President.â
There is no mystery here â it is as simple as that.
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I have posted this information before on this Forum in February 2005
SouthAmerica: In my opinion, the country went from one extreme to a complete opposite overnight after the presidential election of 2000. In the last president, the United States had one of the best presidents of its historyâPresident Bill Clintonâa Rhodes Scholar, a very intelligent man, an intellectual of the highest caliber, a brilliant politician, a statesman admired around the world.
Today, in the other extreme, we have a âMoronâ in charge.
The United States is such a great country and the American people deserve to have a first rate leader in charge, not a pathetic moron. Does not matter if you usually vote democratic, republican or independent, at the end of the day you want an intelligent person in charge representing your country to the rest of the world.
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SouthAmerica: I donât believe that the economic situation in the United States would have deteriorated so much and so fast if Mr. Clinton had the opportunity to be re-elected in 2000 or even if Al Gore had been president. The one thing I never read about anywhere is the economic âParadigm Shiftâ that has occurred from Mr. Clintonâs administration to the Bush administration. Here is where lies some of the real problems of the fast American economic decline.
I am not surprised of the outcome of how bad things are turning out since January 2001. But the American economy under Mr. Clinton stewardship was moving to the future, the internet, the information superhighway, and the American economyâs resources were being applied to that end â in building the infrastructure of the future.
The Bush administration shifted completely the American economy to the past, to the economy of the cold war, to excessive defense spending, to the boogieman is going to get you. They turned the American economy in the direction of a world long gone.
Remember corporations make long-term plans and they adjust to current conditions. And corporations and the financial markets in Wall Street donât like these major shifts in government policies.
For example: if you were part of the management of some major corporation and you had hired people to do research and work based on the Clinton administration goals for the American economy, then came along the Bush administration and all the rules of the game had been changedâthe Bush administration created a major Paradigm Shift in the American economyâthey moved the American economy from focusing into the future, to focusing into the past, the cold war days.
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SouthAmerica: quoting from various sources:
âA Paradigm Shift is an often radical change of paradigm. It is the successful new theory which explains a phenomenon or phenomena that the previous theory fails to.
Think of a Paradigm Shift as a change from one way of thinking to another. Itâs a revolution, a transformation, a sort of metamorphosis. It just doesnât happen, but rather it is driven by agents of change.
Agents of change are driving a new paradigm shift today. The signs are all around us. For example, the introduction of the personal computer and the internet have impacted both personal and business environments, and is a catalyst for a Paradigm Shift. We are shifting from a mechanistic, manufacturing, industrial society to an organic, service based, information centered society, and increases in technology will continue to impact globally. Change is inevitable. It's the only true constant.â
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November 11, 2006
SouthAmerica: I wrote a number of times even long before I started posting on this forum about the economic âParadigm Shiftâ that has occurred in the US economy from what we had during the Clinton administration to the last 6 years of the Bush administration.
Bill Clinton and Al Gore had a better understanding of how the new global economy works including the internet, the information superhighway, the impact of global warming, and so onâ¦.
Bill Clinton and Al Gore were leading the United States into a better future.
Then came along George W. Bush and his administration of highly incompetent people.
What a disaster this crew has been not only for the United States, but also to the rest of the world.
Why the United States needs a team with the vision of Bill Clinton and Al Gore?
First, this a proven team and they did a lot of good things for the United States during their 8 years in office. Al Gore was instrumental in putting the spotlight on the development of the modern internet and the current information superhighway â these guys understood the importance of this new tools and they helped in the fast implementation of a plan to make internet connections readily available not only on the American school systems, but also on public libraries around the country.
They helped connect the American educational system to the new way of communicating of the future.
Al Gore has been a champion for a long time on the fight against global warming. He understand better than any other politician that we have reached a point of a global crisis, and something drastic has to be done to correct this problem.
Donât get me wrong if it was possible I would like to see Bill Clinton running for president in 2008, but he canât run again because of the term limits for US presidents imposed by the US Constitution.
Why should Al Gore ask Bill Clinton to be on his ticket as the vice president in 2008?
In the last 6 years George W. Bush and his administration have trashed the United States clout and reputation around the world. A lot of damage has been done in that regard since Bill Clinton left the White House.
Bill Clinton would be essential for the new Al Gore administration starting in January 2009, and he would play a very important role. Bill Clinton is considered to be a superstar, and he would be welcomed everywhere around the world â and his job would be to help repair the United States reputation around the world - all the damage caused by the Bush administration during their 8 years of humongous incompetence and catastrophic foreign policies.
Al Gore did win the presidential election of 2000, but the election was stolen from him one way or another. I am sure that Al Gore can win big in November 2008 if he includes Bill Clinton as the vice president on his ticket.
The democrats would have in the bag the presidential election of 2008 if the ticket includes:
âAl Gore for President and Bill Clinton for Vice President.â
There is no mystery here â it is as simple as that.
**********
I have posted this information before on this Forum in February 2005
SouthAmerica: In my opinion, the country went from one extreme to a complete opposite overnight after the presidential election of 2000. In the last president, the United States had one of the best presidents of its historyâPresident Bill Clintonâa Rhodes Scholar, a very intelligent man, an intellectual of the highest caliber, a brilliant politician, a statesman admired around the world.
Today, in the other extreme, we have a âMoronâ in charge.
The United States is such a great country and the American people deserve to have a first rate leader in charge, not a pathetic moron. Does not matter if you usually vote democratic, republican or independent, at the end of the day you want an intelligent person in charge representing your country to the rest of the world.
********************
SouthAmerica: I donât believe that the economic situation in the United States would have deteriorated so much and so fast if Mr. Clinton had the opportunity to be re-elected in 2000 or even if Al Gore had been president. The one thing I never read about anywhere is the economic âParadigm Shiftâ that has occurred from Mr. Clintonâs administration to the Bush administration. Here is where lies some of the real problems of the fast American economic decline.
I am not surprised of the outcome of how bad things are turning out since January 2001. But the American economy under Mr. Clinton stewardship was moving to the future, the internet, the information superhighway, and the American economyâs resources were being applied to that end â in building the infrastructure of the future.
The Bush administration shifted completely the American economy to the past, to the economy of the cold war, to excessive defense spending, to the boogieman is going to get you. They turned the American economy in the direction of a world long gone.
Remember corporations make long-term plans and they adjust to current conditions. And corporations and the financial markets in Wall Street donât like these major shifts in government policies.
For example: if you were part of the management of some major corporation and you had hired people to do research and work based on the Clinton administration goals for the American economy, then came along the Bush administration and all the rules of the game had been changedâthe Bush administration created a major Paradigm Shift in the American economyâthey moved the American economy from focusing into the future, to focusing into the past, the cold war days.
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SouthAmerica: quoting from various sources:
âA Paradigm Shift is an often radical change of paradigm. It is the successful new theory which explains a phenomenon or phenomena that the previous theory fails to.
Think of a Paradigm Shift as a change from one way of thinking to another. Itâs a revolution, a transformation, a sort of metamorphosis. It just doesnât happen, but rather it is driven by agents of change.
Agents of change are driving a new paradigm shift today. The signs are all around us. For example, the introduction of the personal computer and the internet have impacted both personal and business environments, and is a catalyst for a Paradigm Shift. We are shifting from a mechanistic, manufacturing, industrial society to an organic, service based, information centered society, and increases in technology will continue to impact globally. Change is inevitable. It's the only true constant.â
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November 11, 2006
SouthAmerica: I posted the above information on another Forum and someone replied that it was a great idea for the Democratic presidential ticket for 2008 to include: "Al Gore/Bill Clinton"
Then that person asked me if Bill Clinton could be included on the ticket as the vice president â I had raised that possibility during the 2004 US presidential election, and here is what I found out on that subject:
I understand the rules here in the US and why US presidents can serve only two terms. Here are the rules:
Since the first President, George Washington, the United States followed throughout most of its history a tradition of one term for a President. After Franklin Delano Roosevelt (FDR) served four terms, Americans added an amendment to its Constitution to limit the term to the office of the President. The 22nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was passed in 1951 and read as follows:
Amendment XXII
Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress.
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November 11, 2006
SouthAmerica: On March 3, 2004 The New York Times published an article that might be the solution that Americans need to fix things here in the United States, and abroad. The American people needs a better option in 2008 to develop a sound strategy to move the US economy and society into the future â The US also needs someone who would help to stop the free fall of United States credibility around the world.
That person is Bill Clinton.
Quoting from The New York Times, March 3, 2004, article by Stephen Gillers: The Next Best Thing to Being President.â
The Article said:ââ¦The US Constitution does not prevent Mr. Clinton from running for vice president. The 22nd Amendment, which became effective in 1951, begins: âNo person shall be elected to the office of the president more than twice.â
No problem. Bill Clinton would be running for vice president, not president. True, if Mr. Clinton were vice president he would be in line for the presidency. But Mr. Clinton would succeed Mr. Kerry not by election, which the amendment forbids, but through Article ll, Section 1 of the Constitution, which provides that if a president dies, resigns, or is removed from office, his powers âshall devolve on the vice president.â The 22nd Amendment would not prevent this succession.â
But that article was published before the 2004 US presidential election, and the same concept would apply for the coming US presidential election in 2008.
If Mr. Clinton is included in the ticket as Mr. Goreâs running mate, Mr. Clinton could help his party win the election. Many voters would remember Mr. Clintonâs strong economy, and economic stewardship that was one of the hallmarks of his administration.
A Gore / Clinton administration would restore US credibility in domestic and in foreign affairs. The addition of Mr. Clinton to the ticket would almost guaranty a democratic victory in November 2008.
Mr. Clinton also would help Mr. Gore to assemble a superior group of people to be part of his administration, in contrast with the bunch of incompetent clowns who have been running the show since January 2001.
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November 11, 2006
SouthAmerica: I posted the above information on another Forum and someone replied that it was a great idea for the Democratic presidential ticket for 2008 to include: "Al Gore/Bill Clinton"
Then that person asked me if Bill Clinton could be included on the ticket as the vice president â I had raised that possibility during the 2004 US presidential election, and here is what I found out on that subject:
I understand the rules here in the US and why US presidents can serve only two terms. Here are the rules:
Since the first President, George Washington, the United States followed throughout most of its history a tradition of one term for a President. After Franklin Delano Roosevelt (FDR) served four terms, Americans added an amendment to its Constitution to limit the term to the office of the President. The 22nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution was passed in 1951 and read as follows:
Amendment XXII
Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
Section 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the states by the Congress.
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November 11, 2006
SouthAmerica: On March 3, 2004 The New York Times published an article that might be the solution that Americans need to fix things here in the United States, and abroad. The American people needs a better option in 2008 to develop a sound strategy to move the US economy and society into the future â The US also needs someone who would help to stop the free fall of United States credibility around the world.
That person is Bill Clinton.
Quoting from The New York Times, March 3, 2004, article by Stephen Gillers: The Next Best Thing to Being President.â
The Article said:ââ¦The US Constitution does not prevent Mr. Clinton from running for vice president. The 22nd Amendment, which became effective in 1951, begins: âNo person shall be elected to the office of the president more than twice.â
No problem. Bill Clinton would be running for vice president, not president. True, if Mr. Clinton were vice president he would be in line for the presidency. But Mr. Clinton would succeed Mr. Kerry not by election, which the amendment forbids, but through Article ll, Section 1 of the Constitution, which provides that if a president dies, resigns, or is removed from office, his powers âshall devolve on the vice president.â The 22nd Amendment would not prevent this succession.â
But that article was published before the 2004 US presidential election, and the same concept would apply for the coming US presidential election in 2008.
If Mr. Clinton is included in the ticket as Mr. Goreâs running mate, Mr. Clinton could help his party win the election. Many voters would remember Mr. Clintonâs strong economy, and economic stewardship that was one of the hallmarks of his administration.
A Gore / Clinton administration would restore US credibility in domestic and in foreign affairs. The addition of Mr. Clinton to the ticket would almost guaranty a democratic victory in November 2008.
Mr. Clinton also would help Mr. Gore to assemble a superior group of people to be part of his administration, in contrast with the bunch of incompetent clowns who have been running the show since January 2001.
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Sorry to burst your communist boil SA, but the odds are better to watch to win who will piss on their respective grave first between the two then to see a presidential ticket.
Just inform ET as to your in depth analysis as to why you live in America - the country you hate at every turn - but refuse to go back to your native country of Brazil.
Why don't you analyze the huge untapped market of sail boat fuel. That is more like the research that you would be good at.
Just inform ET as to your in depth analysis as to why you live in America - the country you hate at every turn - but refuse to go back to your native country of Brazil.
Why don't you analyze the huge untapped market of sail boat fuel. That is more like the research that you would be good at.
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November 12, 2006
SouthAmerica: Reply to Bruto Blukowski
Your reply reflect the sour grapes of a sore loser right-wing Republican.
I did check some of the threads where you made postings on this Forum, and I realized that you are a fascist - a radical right-wing Republican.
That is why you think that Bill Clinton and Al Gore are communists.
You don't have a clue about the subject of the thread where you are posting your opinions.
By the way, do you know what "Bruto" means in Portuguese?
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November 12, 2006
SouthAmerica: Reply to Bruto Blukowski
Your reply reflect the sour grapes of a sore loser right-wing Republican.
I did check some of the threads where you made postings on this Forum, and I realized that you are a fascist - a radical right-wing Republican.
That is why you think that Bill Clinton and Al Gore are communists.
You don't have a clue about the subject of the thread where you are posting your opinions.
By the way, do you know what "Bruto" means in Portuguese?
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November 12, 2006
SouthAmerica: Reply to Bruto Blukowski
Your reply reflect the sour grapes of a sore loser right-wing Republican.
I did check some of the threads where you made postings on this Forum, and I realized that you are a fascist - a radical right-wing Republican.
That is why you think that Bill Clinton and Al Gore are communists.
You don't have a clue about the subject of the thread where you are posting your opinions.
By the way, do you know what "Bruto" means in Portuguese?
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Why don't you try reading comprehension someday when you get around to developing your brain.
Where did I say that Bill and Al were communists?
Your liberal communist boil needs medical attention - it has fully abcessed into your brain.
I hope that you have your box of Kleenex handy, looks like Fidel should croak at anytime. Send you Christmas card to Saddam now, looks like he won't be around for the 25th. Kofi should be right below his name on your list, might as well feel total bliss and send his early too. What are you sending for Hugo?
At what, exactly, is the reason for you living in the U.S.?
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November 12, 2006
SouthAmerica: Reply to Bruto Blukowski
Your brain is stuck on an age long gone, and you still calling people a communist â I assume based on your name, and on your mindset that you must be a very old Polack.
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November 12, 2006
SouthAmerica: Reply to Bruto Blukowski
Your brain is stuck on an age long gone, and you still calling people a communist â I assume based on your name, and on your mindset that you must be a very old Polack.
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I'll give you credit SA. At least you stepped up and tried to be funny, but I'm sorry to report you suck at it.
Don't you have a novel to write? It is national novel month...
>Insert humor here<
you must be a very old Polack.
Don't you have a novel to write? It is national novel month...
>Insert humor here<
you must be a very old Polack.
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November 29, 2006
SouthAmerica: I already had realized since the Katrina catastrophe in 2005 that Al Gore would be the best democratic presidential candidate for the 2008 US presidential election.
Over the past weekend I saw Al Goreâs movie âAn Inconvenient Truthâ, and after watching that presentation I am sure that Americans eventually will come to their senses and will elect Al Gore for president in 2008.
The movie is a documentary of Gore presenting to an audience the greenhouse slide show he's been giving for nearly 20 years â Al Gore claims that he has giving that global warming slide show over a thousand times not only around the United States, but also in all the major cities around the world.
After watching Al Goreâs presentation I realized that if Al Gore is elected US president in 2008 he also would bring to the job some lost credibility that has been lost in that job since Bill Clinton left the job in 2001. The rest of the world also would recognize immediately that the American people would have elected a leader of high quality; one who is intelligent, with a high intellect, who has common sense, and one who it âis notâ a moron and a jackass.
I understand that the US mainstream media has to fill the air time 24/7 with programs to keep their audiences watching it and 2008 still a long way in the future. In the meantime, the mainstream media has to talk about other people until the real crunch time starts during the summer of 2007 â but after the dust settles I am sure that Al Gore will be the democratic candidate in 2008, and if the election is not stolen from him once again, then he finally will be president of the United States starting in January of 2009.
In my opinion, for all practical purposes the only question that still is open for debate for the 2008 US presidential election is - who will be in the ticket with Al Gore as vice president.
And I hope the vice president on Al Goreâs ticket it will be former president Bill Clinton.
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November 29, 2006
SouthAmerica: I already had realized since the Katrina catastrophe in 2005 that Al Gore would be the best democratic presidential candidate for the 2008 US presidential election.
Over the past weekend I saw Al Goreâs movie âAn Inconvenient Truthâ, and after watching that presentation I am sure that Americans eventually will come to their senses and will elect Al Gore for president in 2008.
The movie is a documentary of Gore presenting to an audience the greenhouse slide show he's been giving for nearly 20 years â Al Gore claims that he has giving that global warming slide show over a thousand times not only around the United States, but also in all the major cities around the world.
After watching Al Goreâs presentation I realized that if Al Gore is elected US president in 2008 he also would bring to the job some lost credibility that has been lost in that job since Bill Clinton left the job in 2001. The rest of the world also would recognize immediately that the American people would have elected a leader of high quality; one who is intelligent, with a high intellect, who has common sense, and one who it âis notâ a moron and a jackass.
I understand that the US mainstream media has to fill the air time 24/7 with programs to keep their audiences watching it and 2008 still a long way in the future. In the meantime, the mainstream media has to talk about other people until the real crunch time starts during the summer of 2007 â but after the dust settles I am sure that Al Gore will be the democratic candidate in 2008, and if the election is not stolen from him once again, then he finally will be president of the United States starting in January of 2009.
In my opinion, for all practical purposes the only question that still is open for debate for the 2008 US presidential election is - who will be in the ticket with Al Gore as vice president.
And I hope the vice president on Al Goreâs ticket it will be former president Bill Clinton.
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