Initial risk is always at risk unless and until the market established an actual risk level for a particular trade
I think Volpri also talks about this, and I never understand why the need to differentiate between initial and actual risk. When you first enter the trade, you obviously have some idea of where you will get out if completely wrong. The fact that it maybe never gets there, or hardly even goes against you, doesn't mean the risk wasn't there. I can understand why you would move the initial stop higher once the market is trending in your direction, since a break of this point means the trade is no longer working, but why even use it?
For example, assume you enter here at the green line, with an initial risk at the thick red line. Then after it makes a higher high, you move your stop up to where your risk actually was.
But what's the point of even looking at actual risk after the fact? If I jump out of a moving car, my initial risk is death. The fact that I only broke a few bones, and hence the actual risk was only broken bones, doesn't mean that the initial risk won't always be the more important factor.
Keep in mind that I am not looking for a trade every day.
Yes, I can see that. Your initial entry at around 4215 on November 1 meant that nothing needed to be done as it was going straight up. But I think this is more of an exception rather than the rule. Unless a trader can catch the absolute low or high of a multi-week move, it means there will probably be some false starts or shake outs.
Within each of those weekly candles are daily candles. Each of those has a high and low. Study when the tests, reversals, or breakouts occur at those daily highs and lows.
I do already pay close attention to previous day highs and lows, in addition to the overnight levels, so I'm absolutely on the right track there. But since I generally only have time to catch the open for the first hour or 2, it means that some days those levels aren't hit in my time frame, nor could I be around to manage the trade (although this would almost make my trading even better.. LOL), so I have to expand to looking at other opportunities, like also VWAP, or simply getting into a trend already under way. And I guess I can see how this greatly increases the difficulty of trading if you're looking for trades that don't start at the most ideal areas.
My entries are usually buy or sell stops placed above or below highs and lows. Sometimes, if there is a rare case where a breakout occurred outside of waking hours AND I didn't have an order in the market, I will try to work an entry using limit orders.
And where would you be placing the limit orders? Take for example the trade you took at the lows, around 4215, which hit at 8:35. But suppose you were 2 hours late and came around the area marked by the red line.