ahmadinejad freeing the brits

[fhl]

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but the brits were not prisoners of war, while the gitmo folks technically are since they were supposedly fighting against american troops...sorry, u got this all backward. you cant compare the two episodes, nobody was tortured in iran, they have been humiliated of course but also treated very well. it's a far cry from been subject to torture and a far cry from be a criminal action. it was propaganda, period. and i dont bash the country, i bash the government...that's far from be anti-american, it should be considered patriotic to keep politicians and their actions in check...that's how bad the situation got over there, patriots now are usualy bashed and called anti-americans for not supporting the war or for been critical of this administrtion. typical of repressive regimes and a sorry state of affairs. look what happend to rosie o'donnel, i am not saying you should agree with her but she's got the right exercise her freedom of speech yet she's been painted as anti-american and media attack dogs went as far as saying she should be hanged.

Why is it that people like rosie and her ilk can say anything they want about the administration, including the loony theory that it brought down the twin towers, which murdered thousands, but the defenders of the administration aren't allowed to say anything back?

I know. It's because you also subscribe to that same loony theory. I remember your posts.

Wouldn't it be nice if your side was the only one that could spout off in the media. That is what you're proposing, isn't it?

 

[Bitstream]

Quote from fhl:

Why is it that people like rosie and her ilk can say anything they want about the administration, including the loony theory that it brought down the twin towers, which murdered thousands, but the defenders of the administration aren't allowed to say anything back?

I know. It's because you also subscribe to that same loony theory. I remember your posts.

Wouldn't it be nice if your side was the only one that could spout off in the media. That is what you're proposing, isn't it?

who said you cant say anything back. just argue that facts, do not attack her freedom of speech and call for her firing or inviting guests that want to see her hanged.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from Bitstream:

but the brits were not prisoners of war
Technically they were not indeed. They were victims of a government sanctioned kidnapping.

while the gitmo folks technically are [prisoners of war]
But that's the whole point, just like the brits technically were not prisoners of war, so technically aren't Gitmo/Abu Graib prisoners. Technically there is no war in Iraq, technically none of them belonged to an organized army or wore a uniform. Technically the Geneva Convention does not apply to them as it only applies to uniform-wearing military in times of war.

If you excuse improper (according to Geneva convention's rules) treatement of british sailors by Iranian authorities based on a technicality, you should certainly extend the same courtesy to the Bush administration. I don't excuse either of them though.

 

[Bitstream]

Quote from dddooo:

but the brits were not prisoners of war
Technically they were not indeed. They were victims of a government sanctioned kidnapping.

while the gitmo folks technically are [prisoners of war]
But that's the whole point, just like the brits technically were not prisoners of war, so technically aren't Gitmo/Abu Graib prisoners. Technically there is no war in Iraq, technically none of them belonged to an organized army or wore a uniform. Technically the Geneva Convention does not apply to them as it only applies to uniform-wearing military in times of war.

If you excuse improper (according to Geneva convention's rules) treatement of british sailors by Iranian authorities based on a technicality, you should certainly extend the same courtesy to the Bush administration. I don't excuse either of them though.

i disagree on the geneva issue but it doesnt matter anyways because if they were tortured i would be outraged.

i dont excuse them either myself, i dont know if i would call it a kidnapping tho, since the iranians were convinced the brits were on their territory, therefore arrested them. on the other hand blair claimed they were in iraqi waters and went as far as to fabricate a map showing that when there's no agreed upon maritime boundary between the two countries waters. both countries were wrong and thankfully everything has been resolved despite all the calls for war. i didnt like it too see the brits pareded myself but no harm has been done and its all that matter.

 

[TGregg]

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[ZZZzzzzzzz]

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[ZZZzzzzzzz]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=WAT20070403&articleId=5267

 

[Bitstream]

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=WAT20070403&articleId=5267

you now read paul j watson articles?

wow

 

[Rearden Metal]

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<img src=http://www.ringoffireradio.com/video/Bush%20Saud%20Kiss.jpg>

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<img src=http://ryannorthcott.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/abdullah-cheney.jpg>

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<img src=http://www.greatestcities.com/4544pic/482/CP23482.jpg/King_Fahd_And_President_Reagan..jpg>

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<img src=http://home.millsaps.edu/mcelvrs/Nixon_Mao.jpg>

<img src=http://www.geocities.com/woodkirkcc/images/NixonZhoutalksm.jpg>

Big difference between his pics and yours. His pics displayed pure appeasment to dictators who had absolutely nothing to offer in trade, while yours involved the entirely different situation of Americans negotiating with bad guys who had very valuable goods and services to offer our country in return.

 

[Cutten]

Quote from dddooo:

They will be on their knees, they will negotiate, they will make concessions

What concessions were made, exactly?