AHG - Profitable Strategy for Struggling Traders

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Quote from mark1:

Let me tell you, you start trading right at the most difficult time of the day, with your enthusiasm all pumped up only to be confronted with chop action, not good (that's not always the case ofc , I'm talking about probabilities).
Always keep an eye on the big picture, an hourly chart with a couple of weeks of data is just fine, draw your major TL, R/S and patterns as it was your base chart, but and this a big butt :-) don't be overly biased by its look, it only represents the boundaries of your playground, the real game for you is inside, be ready to change playground (break of a major support for istance) if the market dictates it. Start placing your trades later, did you notice the big moves often happens after 14:00 NY time? I'm sure you did. Most pros just trade from
9:30 to 11:30 and from 14 to 16. Less work more profit.
Trading choppiness requires great skills and I prefer to avoid it even though I'm often caught in the same mistake, see yesterday :mad: .


I know that the doldrums are not so good for trading because of the lower volume, but you got it spot on. I get to the charts as soon as I'm home from work, all pumped up and eager to go. It's addictive (but I don't have to tell you that). As I miss half the tradingday I try to 'make up'. Which is not good.

I have to pick my trades more carefull.

That's something you'll avoid once you realize internally that there's nothing to revenge for. The mkt doesn't give a rat about you, revenge against who? The mkt is a mirror, you see what you feel, nothing more nothing less.

Yes, spot on (again). and I know all that, but when I'm trading I'm still trigger happy. Reading a good book about that: Enhancing Trader Performance by Brett N. Steenbarger.

You noticed the mkt was spiky, you can clearly see that your risk has increased because the pivots (your logical stops) ar far far away, long bars all the way,what do you do? you are in Sim mode so you practice because money is not on the line, it's like saying I'm training for tennis championship so I screw my training because I'm not playing in Wimbledon right now.(I can see Agassi , kicking your @ass, LOL). No you learn your discipline in Sim mode, you don't trade and you wait for a CLEAR, LOW RISK set up. No set ups today? Fark it , tomorrow I need just 1 big trend to make it up for today.

Valid point M, I should treat the papertrading more like real trading.

PS: I prefer Kournikova to play with (doesn't have to be tennis).

Keep working on your discipline and listen to what the MKT has to say and you'll see big improvements, and if this makes you feel better, after 10 years sometimes I still have no clue, and I will post my bad days when they'll come.

Almost forgot, Think about implementing a daily and a weekly stop loss, say 1 day you are down 0.5 % of your account you stop right there, you close down the PC , that's not your day. That's it. They should invent a trading software just like that, which forces you to close down hehe, Button trader has a similar function I think.


I agree, for a real account, but I need the screen time. Will take every setup I can get when papertrading.

Tnx M for the feedback, really appreciated!
 
Quote from ondaflex:

Guys,
I have to say that i have difficult time with entry and stop order.
When i entry i put stop loss order 2 point away from my entry but it seems to be to tight so i changed to 4 point. I get 2 times stop out with 4 full points . I had to work all day to get it back know the solution is in between, not to tight and not too wide but where? :(
Look for previous support and resistance, major and minor. Place your stop a few ticks on the other side of the S/R (depending on if short or long) ... if too wide... may not be a good entry... if stopped out... little damage done, wait for next opportunity.... (try to avoid using a set amount or percentage) IMHO 4 points is an initial target, your stop should be 1/3 of that.... hope it helps.

edit (I am thinking ES, NQ target may be a bit larger)
 
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For instance, I got in after a nice PB, big strong candle, so I take a long. Turns out I bought a DT. Price reverses and stops me out. Second time the DT is broken and liftoff, but I'm not in (fear).

Next time I buy the breakout, turns out to be a fakeout, reverse and stopped.

R... One thing that really helps me is what Anek calls Strong and Weak candles (re-read thread).

Someone else mentioned in this thread about forcing yourself to be very happy taking just a small slice out of the middle. I think this is very helpful for rookies - it helps you stop calling tops and bottoms and it helps you enter with more confirmation and less risk. Practice using strong/weak bars...

Start off by trying to get a small piece of the middle --- once you are successful at that then you can move on to improving the entires/exits even more.

The other thing that can help is to write down in clear detail only a couple setups you are allowed to take... and look for and take ONLY those -- work on that discipline... Don't chase everything that looks tasty -- stick to your written trade plan and limit yourself to a couple setups you know well. Discipline.

Believe me, I understand how this is easier said than done --- but that's the discipline everyone speaks of....
 
Quote from foxthorn:

R... One thing that really helps me is what Anek calls Strong and Weak candles (re-read thread).

I have those weak and strong bars on my charts. But in chop those are of little value.

Someone else mentioned in this thread about forcing yourself to be very happy taking just a small slice out of the middle. I think this is very helpful for rookies - it helps you stop calling tops and bottoms and it helps you enter with more confirmation and less risk. Practice using strong/weak bars...

Start off by trying to get a small piece of the middle --- once you are successful at that then you can move on to improving the entires/exits even more.


Yes, except that my supposed entries at the middle are chopped. Wil need more practice/time for this!

The other thing that can help is to write down in clear detail only a couple setups you are allowed to take... and look for and take ONLY those -- work on that discipline... Don't chase everything that looks tasty -- stick to your written trade plan and limit yourself to a couple setups you know well. Discipline.

Believe me, I understand how this is easier said than done --- but that's the discipline everyone speaks of....


Working on that one, tradingplan is a work in progress but allready very detailed. Stil working on that trading journal.

Tnx for the info/comments
 
is this the famous dragon formation I see on a 3-5 min chart? I don't know the pattern

anyway we are still in a downtrend , not broken yet the down TL
 
Did anyone take the small W bottom that led to the break of the larger W bottom. I got in initially, got scared by a little selling pressure got out, then got back in once I saw buying again. It's a nice trade so far, but could have been better. I'm hoping to let this one ride as much as possible, since that was a large W bottom at decent support.
 
Here the outcome of the trendline break and w formation

Confluence of signals = strong signal

I'm preparing these charts while i'm trading, it helps me to stay focused and relax at the same time, no kidding!
 

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Thanks mark,

How many points ya up ?

Cheers :D


Quote from mark1:

Here the outcome of the trendline break and w formation

Confluence of signals = strong signal

I'm preparing these charts while i'm trading, it helps me to stay focused and relax at the same time, no kidding!
 
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