Originally posted by jaan
therefore solipsism is irrelevant: if you think that the outside world is just your imagination, and not "real", you have merely redefined the term "real" for yourself.
- jaan
Indeed. And ironically enough, all atheists fall into the same trap every time they open their mouths.
The atheist loves to make logical arguments for why God cannot exist. Yet he makes himself a hypocrite the moment he voices the argument, because by taking the time and trouble to even debate the question he is acting as if there is purpose to his action, and as if he accepted that words have meaning.
But for the atheist words cannot have meaning because they are issued forth from nothing. Man is a slightly more complex animal than a goat or a koala bear, that is all, and we make complex sounds to communicate so that our society can exist and we can copulate and reproduce. But we are an accident that proceeded from an accident, and since there is nothing but accidental matter, truth and logic cannot be real either, they are only constructs created to aid in the creation of a functional society so we can fulfill our animalistic urges. Unless truth exists eternally, which it cannot for the atheist, than logic is a ruse and words have no more meaning than waves crashing on a beach. I may as well be typing "ooga mooga bligblurg mekka lekka hi mekka hiney ho."
"Ah yes," says the tired atheist, "but we create our own meaning. Tabula Rasa. Life itself is not endowed with meaning, but I create my own meaning. I choose to believe in a morality and assign meaning to things because that is how I wish to live my life."
Nope, sorry pal, that line of argument doesn't work either. A monkey can splatter paint all over a sheet and you can call it Picasso or Rembrandt if you like, but it's still what it is. The idea that we don't have to accept meaning but we can live our lives as if there is meaning anyway is, in a word, dumb. But, these guys choose to live this way, with sheets over their heads, rather than face reality. Conserving their pride at the cost of intentional blindness. Why not just spend your days banging a pan with a big spoon and crapping in your diapers?
Snowboarders have a saying, "go big or home." The philosophical equivalent would be "live your beliefs or go home." If words have no true meaning, why say them? If morality does not exist, why bother with it? If love isn't real, why not punch your mom in the face instead of kissing her on the cheek? If we are all wormfood in the end, why risk the possibility that you will have a net balance of pain rather than pleasure at the end of this life and just kill yourself now?
Ahh, consistency. A rare thing in the modern world these days.
