After 2 years of on-the-job-training Obama concludes "Bush was Correct on Gitmo"
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I completely disagree with caging the enemy in Guantanemo.
We should take them out of their cages and shoot the terrorist animals to put them out of their misery. Its a waste of taxpayers' money to keep the islamic terrorists caged up. Much better to use a cheap single bullet to their head.
We should take them out of their cages and shoot the terrorist animals to put them out of their misery. Its a waste of taxpayers' money to keep the islamic terrorists caged up. Much better to use a cheap single bullet to their head.
Obama has so many people fooled.It you want to know what he really stands for,look at what he has done,not the empty promises he has made to liberals to get their votes
Biggest spender ever- Record breaking spending is a republican presidential trend,not a democratic trend.The last 2 democratic presidents balanced the budget (Clinton) or had a close to balanced budget(Carter).It was Reagan and Bush Jr who started the trend of record breaking deficits and ballooning of the national debt and like the true Republican that he is Obama is continuing that trend.Reagan out did every other president before him,then Bush did it and now Bush 3/Obama is doing the same
Socialist-Yeah,a corporate socialist
Wants Big Government-Who grew the government the most ?Carter and Clinton or Reagan and Bush ?In regards to growing the government,is Obama more like Carter and Clinton or Reagan and Bush ?
Obama care-Do you know that Obama care was the Republicans plan first in the 90's and that Romney passed it first on a state level before Obama did?Obama care is not a democratic plan,democrats want single payer/universal, Republicans wanted to force every american to to give their money to large private corporations /health insurance companies.Obama is another corporate puppet like Bush,probably a bigger one
Cap & Trade-A lie to his liberal base.Obama doesn't gave a dam about cap and trade.Obama knows how to get things done...that he wants done
More Business Regulation affecting Small Business-somewhat true,but its to benefit big business/corporations at the expense of small business.Notice that his so called regulation has big business and wall street making record profits while small business struggles.Big business benefiting from the expense of small business is a republican policy
Strong Big Union Support-True,but its a group he has to appear to please.He has only really helped them with bailing out a bigger group,the auto corporations
Try Terrorists in Civilian Courts-Has that happened yet ?if so has more trails been in Civilian Courts or military court.Again look at his actions,not the lies he tells his liberal base.More then half way through his term most Terrorists are sitting in Gitmo,like they were under Bush
Anti-Israel pro-Muslim-Obamas policy toward Israel is the same as it was under Bush and the last recent Presidents,give them money and America will defend them if they are attacked
Overly Rewards Campaign Contributors-So did Bush. Most politicians do that
Redistribution of Wealth Mentality-Yeah,from tax payers to corporate America.How many trillions of dollars has Wall Street, Defense contractors,health insurance companies etc got or will get do to Obama ?Again,like Bush,Obama continuing to take from the tax payer and give it to big business
Wants To Tax Success To Death /Wants Big Death Tax-Didn't he just extend the Bush tax cuts ? Again, look at what he does,not what he tells liberals he wants to do
Amnesty And More Illegal Immigrants-Again,coping Bush and Reagan who granted amnesty and tried to grant amnesty
Won't Secure Southern Border-Republicans/big business don't want it closed which is why their Bush and Obama puppets wont do it
Continued Bailouts-Again,Bush term # 3
Wasted $831B on Stimulus Package-Bush had to 2 stimulus packages.What Bush did,Obama does better in many cases
Doesn't Know How To Grow Economy or Create Jobs-Thats not what the Bush/Obama corporate masters put them into office to do
Apologist For America-His actions in continuing the same foreign and economic polices as Bush would suggest otherwise.He knows how to fool people,look at his actions,not his words
Doesn't Believe American Exceptionalism-He believes in the same thing Bush believes in...follow his masters orders
Cut Critical Defense Tech Programs-He spends the same amount on the military industrial complex as Bush did.So what if he scrapped a few programs to seem like hes cutting defense spending
Weak Religion/Moral Values-This is an area where Bush fooled his supporters more then Obama fooled his.. neither one gives a dam about killing thousands of innocent people
Making US More Energy Dependent-Just following Bush's path.The Saudi King and the oil industry pimped/pimps both of them
Obama is a 3rd Bush term.I have no issues with people hating the him,but so many hate him for the wrong reason.He's not a socialist, Muslim,black panther etc,he is a puppet for the same people that pulled Bush Jr's strings who takes trillions of tax payers money and give it to the military industrial complex,wall street,big business, the rich,the oil industry etc
He really has fooled the people who love him.He has given trillions to the groups mentioned above, hasn't given shit to libs or black americans who love him so much
Biggest spender ever- Record breaking spending is a republican presidential trend,not a democratic trend.The last 2 democratic presidents balanced the budget (Clinton) or had a close to balanced budget(Carter).It was Reagan and Bush Jr who started the trend of record breaking deficits and ballooning of the national debt and like the true Republican that he is Obama is continuing that trend.Reagan out did every other president before him,then Bush did it and now Bush 3/Obama is doing the same
Socialist-Yeah,a corporate socialist
Wants Big Government-Who grew the government the most ?Carter and Clinton or Reagan and Bush ?In regards to growing the government,is Obama more like Carter and Clinton or Reagan and Bush ?
Obama care-Do you know that Obama care was the Republicans plan first in the 90's and that Romney passed it first on a state level before Obama did?Obama care is not a democratic plan,democrats want single payer/universal, Republicans wanted to force every american to to give their money to large private corporations /health insurance companies.Obama is another corporate puppet like Bush,probably a bigger one
Cap & Trade-A lie to his liberal base.Obama doesn't gave a dam about cap and trade.Obama knows how to get things done...that he wants done
More Business Regulation affecting Small Business-somewhat true,but its to benefit big business/corporations at the expense of small business.Notice that his so called regulation has big business and wall street making record profits while small business struggles.Big business benefiting from the expense of small business is a republican policy
Strong Big Union Support-True,but its a group he has to appear to please.He has only really helped them with bailing out a bigger group,the auto corporations
Try Terrorists in Civilian Courts-Has that happened yet ?if so has more trails been in Civilian Courts or military court.Again look at his actions,not the lies he tells his liberal base.More then half way through his term most Terrorists are sitting in Gitmo,like they were under Bush
Anti-Israel pro-Muslim-Obamas policy toward Israel is the same as it was under Bush and the last recent Presidents,give them money and America will defend them if they are attacked
Overly Rewards Campaign Contributors-So did Bush. Most politicians do that
Redistribution of Wealth Mentality-Yeah,from tax payers to corporate America.How many trillions of dollars has Wall Street, Defense contractors,health insurance companies etc got or will get do to Obama ?Again,like Bush,Obama continuing to take from the tax payer and give it to big business
Wants To Tax Success To Death /Wants Big Death Tax-Didn't he just extend the Bush tax cuts ? Again, look at what he does,not what he tells liberals he wants to do
Amnesty And More Illegal Immigrants-Again,coping Bush and Reagan who granted amnesty and tried to grant amnesty
Won't Secure Southern Border-Republicans/big business don't want it closed which is why their Bush and Obama puppets wont do it
Continued Bailouts-Again,Bush term # 3
Wasted $831B on Stimulus Package-Bush had to 2 stimulus packages.What Bush did,Obama does better in many cases
Doesn't Know How To Grow Economy or Create Jobs-Thats not what the Bush/Obama corporate masters put them into office to do
Apologist For America-His actions in continuing the same foreign and economic polices as Bush would suggest otherwise.He knows how to fool people,look at his actions,not his words
Doesn't Believe American Exceptionalism-He believes in the same thing Bush believes in...follow his masters orders
Cut Critical Defense Tech Programs-He spends the same amount on the military industrial complex as Bush did.So what if he scrapped a few programs to seem like hes cutting defense spending
Weak Religion/Moral Values-This is an area where Bush fooled his supporters more then Obama fooled his.. neither one gives a dam about killing thousands of innocent people
Making US More Energy Dependent-Just following Bush's path.The Saudi King and the oil industry pimped/pimps both of them
Obama is a 3rd Bush term.I have no issues with people hating the him,but so many hate him for the wrong reason.He's not a socialist, Muslim,black panther etc,he is a puppet for the same people that pulled Bush Jr's strings who takes trillions of tax payers money and give it to the military industrial complex,wall street,big business, the rich,the oil industry etc
He really has fooled the people who love him.He has given trillions to the groups mentioned above, hasn't given shit to libs or black americans who love him so much
Obama has more than doubled the rate of spending that occurred under Bush II and he doesn't see that the country desperately wants Government to balance the budget NOW.
What, you can't see that ObamaCare the biggest socialist program in American history?
Obama is growing government programs with his massive spending spree.
Because Romney did STATE healthcare in Mass. it doesn't make ObamaCare a Republican idea. Hillary tried this when her husband was president and couldn't get it off the ground. Obama got it passed with a Dem. Senate and a Dem. Congress. It's a load of crap socialist program propagated by the Dems only.
Obama couldn't get his cap & trade legislation through Congress and is doing an end around by implementing it through the EPA. The Republicans are trying to take this authority away from the EPA.
I guess you haven't read the comments from the 3M CEO and other big business leaders complaining how business will move to Canada and off-shore under Obama's regulations.
Obama has had his hand in the Wisconsin public unions revolt and and one of the most often visitors to see him at the white house are the two most powerful union bosses in the country. He owes unions for his election and he pays them back almost daily.
Are you kidding? He and Holder were going to hold trials in NYC but were blocked by the Republicans and some Democrats. Otherwise it would have happened. Still may!
That's bull shit. Obama has ridden the Israelies ever since he has been in office. The only thing stopping him from full support of the Palestinians over Israel is Congress.
I said overly. Package a million dollars for Obama and you get a billion or more back in government subsidies. Other contributors are spread all over his white house and ambassadorships. Every thing the guy does is payback to unions and other large contributors.
You already forgot his response to Joe the Plumber in the campaign. Obama wants to tax anyone who is successful and spread that money to his buddies and those who won't work. The record is clear.
Absolutely. He fought and fought to get the Bush Tax cuts dropped for those making over $250K like small business. He and the Dems have successfully kept the huge increase in the death tax that goes into effect this year. Etc. Etc. Etc.
Reagan thought it was a solution. Bush dropped the ball. Obama stopped the electronic fence and any and all border security advancement. He also stopped the ICE raids on business and told ICE to catch and release illegals.
A few businesses use illegals. Obama has gone to new lengths to allow illegals to come into the country and stay here.
Bush had one month left in office and deferred to Obama who wanted the bailouts. So, Bush started them and turned over most of the money to Obama. Then Obama spent another near trillion dollars. He is by far the bailout king pissing off every conservative.
It was Obama who got the stimulus package passed then squandered the money on his buddies and the figures show it cost something like $600K for every job created. Ridiculous.
You're nuts.
Hardly. Remember the apology speech in Cairo? Obama has said over and over that America makes mistakes and has apologized to the world and world leaders. Remember all the bows he has taken?
Obama thinks America is just like any other nation. We are not.
He scrapped some programs that shouldn't have been scrapped like the airborne defense laser program that had made recent breakthroughs. He also caved to the Russians on the European defense shield to protect from the crazy Iranians.
Obama doesn't even go to Church. He doesn't act much like a God fearing Christian. He spent 20 years listening to (and I guess believing) a radical black theologian preacher, Rev. Wright.
Bush wanted to drill Anwar and the Gulf. The Dems stopped him on Anwar. Obama stopped nearly all offshore drilling. He won't allow new nuclear, coal or gas fired plants.
We all know, Obama IS a socialist. Has socialist/marxist ideas. Even asked to be in college classes taught by Marxist professors according to his words in his book.
Obama has more than doubled the rate of spending that occurred under Bush II
Reagan more then doubled the rate of deficit spending that occurred under Carter . Bush more then doubled the rate of deficit spending under Clinton.Obama is just doing what republican presidents do
What, you can't see that ObamaCare the biggest socialist program in American history?
Making every american buy a product from a private for profit health insurance industry isn't socialism
Obama is growing government programs with his massive spending spree.
Does Bush's TSA,Homeland security,medicare expansion etc sound familiar?Obama is just doing what republican presidents do
http://www.independent.org/newsroom/news_detail.asp?newsid=31
Since 2001, even with record low inflation, U.S. federal spending has increased by a massive 28.8% (19.7% in real dollars)âwith non-defense discretionary growth of 35.7% (25.3% in real dollars)âthe highest rate of federal government growth since the presidencies of Richard Nixon and Lyndon Johnson. This increase has resulted in the largest budget deficits in U.S. history, an estimated $520 billion in fiscal year 2004 alone. Furthermore, the projected spending for 2005 is a conservative estimate, since it doesnât include at least $50 billion for the 2005 cost of the Iraq occupation.
As predicted by Independent Institute Senior Fellow Robert Higgs, author of such key books as Crisis and Leviathan and the new Against Leviathan, this explosion of government power would only have been possible in the aftermath of 9/11. Times of crisis present the easiest opportunities for politicians to take advantage of a frightened American public.
President George W. Bush is now on his way to becoming the first full-term president since John Quincy Adams (1825-1829) to not veto a single bill. The result is a congress that has been completely unconstrained in satiating its appetite for pork and corporate welfare. In response, Democratic challenger John Kerry has maligned alleged spending cuts and called for even higher taxes and spending. The consequence is that we now have two parties competing to see which can grow government faster.
From the massive increases in agricultural subsidies in the farm bill of 2002, to the new Medicare prescription drug entitlement of 2003; from the 47% increase in the defense budget, to the 80% increase in education spending, George W. Bush has demonstrated that âlimited governmentâ is not part of his political vocabulary.
Because Romney did STATE healthcare in Mass. it doesn't make ObamaCare a Republican idea.
Maybe you will believe it if Fox News tells you ?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/27/republicans-hatched-idea-obamas-health-insurance-mandate/
Republicans Hatched Idea for Obama's Health Insurance Mandate
Republicans were for President Obama's requirement that Americans get health insurance before they were against it.
The obligation in the new health care law is a Republican idea that's been around at least two decades. It was once trumpeted as an alternative to Bill and Hillary Clinton's failed health care overhaul in the 1990s. These days, Republicans call it government overreach.
Mitt Romney, weighing another run for the Republican presidential nomination, signed such a requirement into law at the state level as Massachusetts governor in 2006. At the time, Romney defended it as "a personal responsibility principle" and Massachusetts' newest Republican senator, Scott Brown, backed it. Romney now says Obama's plan is a federal takeover that bears little resemblance to what he did as governor and should be repealed.
I guess you haven't read the comments from the 3M CEO and other big business leaders complaining how business will move to Canada and off-shore under Obama's regulations.
http://www.zacks.com/research/get_news.php?id=067l0819
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Are you kidding? He and Holder were going to hold trials in NYC but were blocked by the Republicans and some Democrats. Otherwise it would have happened. Still may!
Again,look at actions,not what Obama tells liberals he wants. Terrorist are at Gitmo,like they were under Bush
That's bull shit. Obama has ridden the Israelies ever since he has been in office. The only thing stopping him from full support of the Palestinians over Israel is Congress.
Obamas cabinet is full of Jews.He gives Israel billions every year.Iran and others would have already wiped Israel off the map if they thought Obama would allow it
You already forgot his response to Joe the Plumber in the campaign. Obama wants to tax anyone who is successful and spread that money to his buddies and those who won't work. The record is clear.
I ignore Obamas responses,he is a lier.We agree his record is clear.Who has gotten more from Obama ? Wall Street,Auto industry,health insurance industry, pharmaceutical industry , military industrial complex, etc or those who dont work ?
Reagan thought it was a solution. Bush dropped the ball. Obama stopped the electronic fence and any and all border security advancement. He also stopped the ICE raids on business and told ICE to catch and release illegals.
We are in agreement that Obama supports amnesty,the same amnesty that Reagan passed and Bush and McCain tried to pass. Republican presidents support amnesty
Bush had one month left in office and deferred to Obama who wanted the bailouts. So, Bush started them and turned over most of the money to Obama. Then Obama spent another near trillion dollars. He is by far the bailout king pissing off every conservative.
Yes, Obama out did Bush.Notice the trend, Republican presidents try to out do each other.
Obama doesn't even go to Church. He doesn't act much like a God fearing Christian. He spent 20 years listening to (and I guess believing) a radical black theologian preacher, Rev. Wright.
As i said,both Bush and Obama don't give a shit about killing thousands of innocent people.I guess its ok with you that Bush lied and caused the deaths of over 100,000 innocent people because he says god tells him what to do
In regards to rev wright(I am not a wright supporter),Obama is doing everything Wright was against and completely threw him under bus
We all know, Obama IS a socialist. Has socialist/marxist ideas. Even asked to be in college classes taught by Marxist professors according to his words in his book.
Obama is not a socialist.If Obama was a socialist he would have fought for single payer health care,but Obama fought for every american to have to buy insurance from the for profit health insurance industry
If Obama was a socialist he would have tried to destroyed wall street and the banks,yet because of Obama they are making record profits
If Obama was a socialist he would have ended both wars ,taken over the oil industry ,tried to destroy the rich etc, yet just like under Bush the military industrial complex ,the richest Americans , oil industry etc continue to prosper
Reagan more then doubled the rate of deficit spending that occurred under Carter . Bush more then doubled the rate of deficit spending under Clinton.Obama is just doing what republican presidents do
What, you can't see that ObamaCare the biggest socialist program in American history?
Making every american buy a product from a private for profit health insurance industry isn't socialism
Obama is growing government programs with his massive spending spree.
Does Bush's TSA,Homeland security,medicare expansion etc sound familiar?Obama is just doing what republican presidents do
http://www.independent.org/newsroom/news_detail.asp?newsid=31
Since 2001, even with record low inflation, U.S. federal spending has increased by a massive 28.8% (19.7% in real dollars)âwith non-defense discretionary growth of 35.7% (25.3% in real dollars)âthe highest rate of federal government growth since the presidencies of Richard Nixon and Lyndon Johnson. This increase has resulted in the largest budget deficits in U.S. history, an estimated $520 billion in fiscal year 2004 alone. Furthermore, the projected spending for 2005 is a conservative estimate, since it doesnât include at least $50 billion for the 2005 cost of the Iraq occupation.
As predicted by Independent Institute Senior Fellow Robert Higgs, author of such key books as Crisis and Leviathan and the new Against Leviathan, this explosion of government power would only have been possible in the aftermath of 9/11. Times of crisis present the easiest opportunities for politicians to take advantage of a frightened American public.
President George W. Bush is now on his way to becoming the first full-term president since John Quincy Adams (1825-1829) to not veto a single bill. The result is a congress that has been completely unconstrained in satiating its appetite for pork and corporate welfare. In response, Democratic challenger John Kerry has maligned alleged spending cuts and called for even higher taxes and spending. The consequence is that we now have two parties competing to see which can grow government faster.
From the massive increases in agricultural subsidies in the farm bill of 2002, to the new Medicare prescription drug entitlement of 2003; from the 47% increase in the defense budget, to the 80% increase in education spending, George W. Bush has demonstrated that âlimited governmentâ is not part of his political vocabulary.
Because Romney did STATE healthcare in Mass. it doesn't make ObamaCare a Republican idea.
Maybe you will believe it if Fox News tells you ?
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/27/republicans-hatched-idea-obamas-health-insurance-mandate/
Republicans Hatched Idea for Obama's Health Insurance Mandate
Republicans were for President Obama's requirement that Americans get health insurance before they were against it.
The obligation in the new health care law is a Republican idea that's been around at least two decades. It was once trumpeted as an alternative to Bill and Hillary Clinton's failed health care overhaul in the 1990s. These days, Republicans call it government overreach.
Mitt Romney, weighing another run for the Republican presidential nomination, signed such a requirement into law at the state level as Massachusetts governor in 2006. At the time, Romney defended it as "a personal responsibility principle" and Massachusetts' newest Republican senator, Scott Brown, backed it. Romney now says Obama's plan is a federal takeover that bears little resemblance to what he did as governor and should be repealed.
I guess you haven't read the comments from the 3M CEO and other big business leaders complaining how business will move to Canada and off-shore under Obama's regulations.
http://www.zacks.com/research/get_news.php?id=067l0819
3M: THE WINNING STREAK CONTINUES (MMM)
Mar 08, 2011
Shares of 3M (NYSE:MMM) traded at a new 52-week high today of $94.00. Approximately 1.8 million shares have traded hands today vs. average 30-day volume of 3.6 million shares.
3M is currently trading at $93.92, approximately 5.4% above its 50-day moving average of $89.15. SmarTrend will be monitoring shares of MMM to see if this bullish momentum will continue.
In the last five trading sessions, the 50-day MA has climbed 0.38% while the 200-day MA has risen 0.18%.
In the past 52 weeks, shares of 3M have traded between a low of $67.98 and a high of $93.65 and are now at $93.94, which is 38% above that low price.
SmarTrend currently has shares of 3M in an Uptrend and issued the Uptrend alert on January 21, 2011 at $88.88. The stock has risen 4% since the Uptrend alert was issued.
Are you kidding? He and Holder were going to hold trials in NYC but were blocked by the Republicans and some Democrats. Otherwise it would have happened. Still may!
Again,look at actions,not what Obama tells liberals he wants. Terrorist are at Gitmo,like they were under Bush
That's bull shit. Obama has ridden the Israelies ever since he has been in office. The only thing stopping him from full support of the Palestinians over Israel is Congress.
Obamas cabinet is full of Jews.He gives Israel billions every year.Iran and others would have already wiped Israel off the map if they thought Obama would allow it
You already forgot his response to Joe the Plumber in the campaign. Obama wants to tax anyone who is successful and spread that money to his buddies and those who won't work. The record is clear.
I ignore Obamas responses,he is a lier.We agree his record is clear.Who has gotten more from Obama ? Wall Street,Auto industry,health insurance industry, pharmaceutical industry , military industrial complex, etc or those who dont work ?
Reagan thought it was a solution. Bush dropped the ball. Obama stopped the electronic fence and any and all border security advancement. He also stopped the ICE raids on business and told ICE to catch and release illegals.
We are in agreement that Obama supports amnesty,the same amnesty that Reagan passed and Bush and McCain tried to pass. Republican presidents support amnesty
Bush had one month left in office and deferred to Obama who wanted the bailouts. So, Bush started them and turned over most of the money to Obama. Then Obama spent another near trillion dollars. He is by far the bailout king pissing off every conservative.
Yes, Obama out did Bush.Notice the trend, Republican presidents try to out do each other.
Obama doesn't even go to Church. He doesn't act much like a God fearing Christian. He spent 20 years listening to (and I guess believing) a radical black theologian preacher, Rev. Wright.
As i said,both Bush and Obama don't give a shit about killing thousands of innocent people.I guess its ok with you that Bush lied and caused the deaths of over 100,000 innocent people because he says god tells him what to do
In regards to rev wright(I am not a wright supporter),Obama is doing everything Wright was against and completely threw him under bus
We all know, Obama IS a socialist. Has socialist/marxist ideas. Even asked to be in college classes taught by Marxist professors according to his words in his book.
Obama is not a socialist.If Obama was a socialist he would have fought for single payer health care,but Obama fought for every american to have to buy insurance from the for profit health insurance industry
If Obama was a socialist he would have tried to destroyed wall street and the banks,yet because of Obama they are making record profits
If Obama was a socialist he would have ended both wars ,taken over the oil industry ,tried to destroy the rich etc, yet just like under Bush the military industrial complex ,the richest Americans , oil industry etc continue to prosper
note on the death tax...
I believe that the death tax was set at 5,000,000 exclusion and portable. after 5,000,000 it is 35 percent (for 2011 and 2012). That portability concept seems like a very interesting improvement.
seems like it was part of a compromise package.
if anyone knows otherwise... please post
I believe that the death tax was set at 5,000,000 exclusion and portable. after 5,000,000 it is 35 percent (for 2011 and 2012). That portability concept seems like a very interesting improvement.
seems like it was part of a compromise package.
if anyone knows otherwise... please post