Affordable care act

[nitro]

With the robots coming online in the not too distance future, it doesn't make sense to keep the human race alive. Those who can afford health insurance are the productive ones whereas the rest will surely be supplanted by a robot or machine. Why keep the unproductive alive? The human race is just an evolutionary step, if there are elements unable to produce to survive then let them become a footnote in history.

That would violate the Declaration of Independence "right to life and the pursuit of happiness". It may not make sense in some mathematical sense to keep human beings around, but societies erected by human beings aren't built on logic for the sake of logic, but for the logic of human progress - to maximize life and happiness.

Now, robots might make their own DOI where human beings are irrelevant. Good luck with that.

 

[gwb-trading]

That would violate the Declaration of Independence "right to life and the pursuit of happiness". It may not make sense in some mathematical sense to keep human beings around, but societies erected by human beings aren't built on logic for the sake of logic, but for the logic of human progress - to maximize life and happiness.

Now, robots might make their own DOI where human beings are irrelevant. Good luck with that.

Who cares if it violates the Declaration of Independence. The U.S. legal system is governed by the Constitution not the Declaration of Independence which has no bearing in the legal system.

 

[CaptainObvious]

And the retards will line up by the millions in two weeks and vote for more of the same. Difficult to have any sympathy for people this stupid.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Premiums will go up sharply next year under President Barack Obama's health care law, and many consumers will be down to just one insurer, the administration confirmed Monday. That will stoke another "Obamacare" controversy days before a presidential election.

Before taxpayer-provided subsidies, premiums for a midlevel benchmark plan will increase an average of 25 percent across the 39 states served by the federally run online market, according to a report from the Department of Health and Human Services. Some states will see much bigger jumps, others less.

Moreover, about 1 in 5 consumers will only have plans from a single insurer to pick from, after major national carriers such as UnitedHealth Group, Humana and Aetna scaled back their roles.

"Consumers will be faced this year with not only big premium increases but also with a declining number of insurers participating, and that will lead to a tumultuous open enrollment period," said Larry Levitt, who tracks the health care law for the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation.

 

[Covertibility]

From HHS

Thanks Obama!

 

[fhl]

How much obamacare premiums are going up in every state.
I know, let's elect Hillary and she'll fix it. smh

 

[nitro]

Fox Anchor Lets Trump Lie About Obamacare, Proving He Doesn't Understand It Either


Trump States “I Don’t Use Much Obamacare” Minutes After Claiming, “All Of My Employees Are Having A Tremendous Problem With Obamacare”


During a phone interview with Fox News, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump claimed that his companies “don’t use much Obamacare” just minutes after publicly stating that “all of [his] employees are having a tremendous problem with Obamacare.” The contradiction went unnoticed at Fox, which allowed the GOP nominee to peddle misinformation about the law’s supposed impending demise.

The Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, was thrust into national headlines on Monday after the Obama administration confirmed double-digit premium increases on average for insurance plans sold on Obamacare’s online marketplace at Healthcare.gov for 2017. This will raise the average cost for a “Silver” plan, which is the benchmark that Obamacare subsidies are calculated for, to $3,552 annually, before subsidies are applied (the vast majority of enrollees receive substantial subsidies). As MSNBC’s Ali Velshi explained today, this premium level is consistent with the Congressional Budget Office’s 2009 analysis of future rates.

Trump made a series of false claims about the ACA during the interview that went unchecked by Fox anchor Bill Hemmer, including touting the benefits of repealing and replacing Obamacare (there is no replacement plan), calling the average figure for premium increases of 25 percent a “phony number,” praising the benefits of health savings accounts (they’re widely criticized by health experts as an insufficient replacement for insurance), and denouncing Obamacare for killing jobs (it doesn’t).

Perhaps most perplexing was Trump’s claim that he doesn’t “use much Obamacare” when numerous reporters confirmed that Trump claimed “all of my employees are having a tremendous problem with Obamacare” during a rally in Doral, Florida, just before the Fox interview....

https://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/...proving-he-doesnt-understand-it-either/214096

 

[Tony Stark]

And the retards will line up by the millions in two weeks and vote for more of the same. Difficult to have any sympathy for people this stupid.

We are voting for someone to move us towards medicare for all option or single payer rather than someone who will bring us back to the days of pre existing conditions denials and other insurance abuses.

 

[Wallet]

And the retards will line up by the millions in two weeks and vote for more of the same. Difficult to have any sympathy for people this stupid.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Premiums will go up sharply next year under President Barack Obama's health care law, and many consumers will be down to just one insurer, the administration confirmed Monday. That will stoke another "Obamacare" controversy days before a presidential election.

Before taxpayer-provided subsidies, premiums for a midlevel benchmark plan will increase an average of 25 percent across the 39 states served by the federally run online market, according to a report from the Department of Health and Human Services. Some states will see much bigger jumps, others less.

Moreover, about 1 in 5 consumers will only have plans from a single insurer to pick from, after major national carriers such as UnitedHealth Group, Humana and Aetna scaled back their roles.

"Consumers will be faced this year with not only big premium increases but also with a declining number of insurers participating, and that will lead to a tumultuous open enrollment period," said Larry Levitt, who tracks the health care law for the nonpartisan Kaiser Family Foundation.

Let's see, federal mandate to buy insurance, smaller insurance companies squeezed out of play, skyrocketing premiums from those few who can afford it, federal subsidies for those who can't... Now all we need is for the federal government to bailout the few remaining big insurance companies.

They jack up and keep the thumb screws on the paying middle class, while getting federal assistance and a guaranteed backstop. WallStreet meet Big Pharma and Big Heathcare.

 

[nitro]

Let's see, federal mandate to buy insurance, smaller insurance companies squeezed out of play, skyrocketing premiums from those few who can afford it, federal subsidies for those who can't... Now all we need is for the federal government to bailout the few remaining big insurance companies.

They jack up and keep the thumb screws on the paying middle class, while getting federal assistance and a guaranteed backstop. WallStreet meet Big Pharma and Big Heathcare.

But why stop there in the analysis? We need to disambiguate.

First, I agree with you that the current government is in cahoots with the corporations through lobbying and showering our elected representatives with money. By "current" I mean going [at least] all the way back to Reagan, and I mean Republicans and Democrats. But step back a second and ask: Is the problem the government? Or the government in relation to corporations that want to be able to suck dry the American people?

What I claim is that _____all_____ insurance companies should be put out of the healthcare business, and we need to move to Single Payer Universal health care.

The problem is that Republicans _____automatically_____ reject _____any_____ government led initiative to improve our lives, all in the name that has been sold to Republicans as the second coming of Christ - Social Darwinism otherwise known as Capitalism.

The best way to hide a lie is between two truths.

 

[Wallet]

But why stop there in the analysis? We need to disambiguate.

First, I agree with you that the current government is in cahoots with the corporations. By "current" I mean going [at least] all the way back to Reagan, and I mean Republicans and Democrats. But step back a second and ask: Is the problem the government? Or the government in relation to corporations that want to be able to suck dry the American people?

What I claim is that _____all_____ insurance companies should be put out of the healthcare business, and we need to move to Single Payer Universal health care.

The problem is that Republicans _____automatically_____ reject _____any_____ government led initiative to improve our lives.

Today, Government and Big Business is one and the same, I've said this before, each exist in a symbolic relationship, they need each other to survive while feeding off their consumers/constituency. The problem isn't limited to just healthcare, pretty much all sectors suffer from the same problem

Republicans are not solely to blame, Democrats are in a frenzy to elect the picture child of corny capitalism.