Aetna CEO: ObamaCare Will Make Some Health Ins. Premiums Double

[bigarrow]

Quote from 377OHMS:

Between the two of us one guy spent his career with a shovel in his hand in proximity to the aroma of an asphalt truck and the other spend his career in front of a spectrum analyzer in Cocoa Beach.

Even you can figure out which guy isn't too bright bigarrow.

Somebody has got to build the roads and somebody has got to launch the satellites. I know which I prefer.

Maybe so, but you gotta admit that was a stupid question.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

Quote from 377OHMS:

The majority voted for this. Whatever happens I think the majority will deserve it.

A few states have unsustainable budgets, California for one. If it is allowed to continue on its present course it will implode economically and fail spectacularly. I'm convinced, however, that Obama will bail out the failing states with federal funds. The question is whether or not people in fiscally responsible states will put up with having their tax money spent to prop up marxist-leftists states like California.

He not only will bail out those states, he's already done it once with the earlier "stimulus" plan. It was used largely so that states like California could delay dealing with their unsustainable budgets for unionized employees. He was reelected, so it seems voters didn;' have too much of a problem with it, although the republicans as usual did a miserable job of explaining it to voters.

As for your utility bills, to quote Mr. T, I predict pain. How much depends on how much of it comes from coal-fired plants and how accessible nat gas is to your utilities. The re;lative cheapness of gas has spared people so far, but you have to wonder howlong they will be giving it away. also, a lot fo the global warming crowd don;t want utilities buring gas either, so depending upon how crazy EPA is prepared to be, the sky's the limit.

 

[johnson100]

Quote from rallymode:

So not only do i now have to subsidize other people's health insurance through the 3.8% surcharge i would be paying on cap gains but will also have to pay even higher premiums myself. Sad to say but I am starting to hope the economy implodes and Washington burns to the ground in civil unrest.

If you are planning to pay 3.8% tax, that means you are above 250K income limit. So you are rich and so why the worry?

3.8% is peanuts for you.

 

[hughb]

Quote from johnson100:

If you are planning to pay 3.8% tax, that means you are above 250K income limit. So you are rich and so why the worry?

3.8% is peanuts for you.

But it's his peanuts and he earned it. It belongs to him.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from hughb:

But it's his peanuts and he earned it. It belongs to him.

+1

I also love how some people think 250k is "rich".

 

[bigarrow]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

+1

I also love how some people think 250k is "rich".

I think he was joking about the 250k being rich. 3% mor or 3% less taxes are details and is not the main issue, it's only a way to an end. Fact is our country has a financial obligation and it may take a small tax increase on the top earners in America to pay our bills and it will require our country spending less. The right drawing a line in the sand over the 3.8% on the top 2% is campaign politics and the campaign is over. Republicans need to step up to the plate, and remember they are working for Americans and not Grover Norquist.

 

[Mav88]

Quote from bigarrow:

I think he was joking about the 250k being rich. 3% mor or 3% less taxes are details and is not the main issue, it's only a way to an end. Fact is our country has a financial obligation and it may take a small tax increase on the top earners in America to pay our bills and it will require our country spending less. The right drawing a line in the sand over the 3.8% on the top 2% is campaign politics and the campaign is over. Republicans need to step up to the plate, and remember they are working for Americans and not Grover Norquist.

The fact is the gov't keeps making this 'obligation' larger and it never has enough money. 3% won't solve this, not even close. The point republicans are making is that it is time to also then get serious about cuts.

 

[bigarrow]

Quote from Mav88:

The fact is the gov't keeps making this 'obligation' larger and it never has enough money. 3% won't solve this, not even close. The point republicans are making is that it is time to also then get serious about cuts.

From what I've heard Geitner say, so is the President. I don't think the republicans realise there will have to be a comrpmise, there is no other way. If the President thinks there will have to be a tax increase along with spending cuts then it will probably take a plan something like that to get passed.