Advice on how I should Raise Trading Capital?

Jesus Christ that guy is a bigger crook than Ross Cameron,Teo Raynor,Ricky Guiterrez,etc! I wouldn't pay him a fucking dime. Has he ever revealed how much he made/lost in 2022? 2021? 2020? Seems he idolizes and is trying to imitate Cameron,et al marketing schemes. He's probably lost a fortune trading but he dont give a shit because he has a high-paying day job to top up his trading account after the losses,, and a few hundred(or thousand) idiots paying him 10.00/month. What a joke.

spend some time reading his tweets watching his videos. Your ignorance will become less apparent
 
spend some time reading his tweets watching his videos. Your ignorance will become less apparent

I dont need to watch any more of his videos,I've already wasted 31 minutes of my life watching that one. So has he made any attempts to prove he is successful at trading? Audited results? I'm guessing 99.99% of the people who follow him have day jobs and think they're gonna be able to trade "part-time". Position trading,maybe,day or swing trading,not a chance. They're gonna lose every dime they own. The guy is just regurgitating a bunch of the same old trading cliches,slapping them together and calling it "education".
 
Honesty is everything as the truth is all that matters...so here is some brutal, embarrassing honesty:

Long story short...my education as a trader has cost me ~$140k...And I absolutely do not have anymore to lose. My primary choice for gambling was long options believing that "it has to happen"...but it never did and I absolutely deserved to learn that lesson. If it wasn't for options I would have still lost the same amount of money...the problem was obviously me as the driver, not the trading vehicle.

After a 6 month break to really reflect on my failures I decided to get away from options and focus on futures (for a number of reasons not relevant to this thread). I've always been intimidated/afraid of futures trading but drawn to them for whatever reason. After some success paper trading I decided to go live trading micros...actually doing the things you are supposed to do...and I am profitable.

Although this thread is slightly premature based on my skills...the time is coming and I should probably get started with raising capital sooner rather than later.

Looking for some genuine advice on what to do here. I am 37 yo male, I do not have a job and really really do not want to go back to the work place, (haven't worked since 2018). I am really fortunate in that I own a decent house and a profitable small business with zero debt...but my lifestyle has to be extremely frugal due to very low income. Too frugal in fact.

So where would you look for trading capital in this situation? I have about $25k in an IRA I could cash out, probably another $20k in physical goods I could let go of with reluctance...but that's about it.

- Job is most obvious choice, unfortunately.
- Prop firm worth it? would I have to trade their specific way? would they even be interested?
- Take out a loan? If I am profitable maybe it would be worth taking out a cash loan of some sort.

Just looking for some advice,

thanks ET.
Man, sounds like you want to operate your life on an even thinner margin....... Trading is hard enough and all those financial gymnastics that you mention wouldn't make it easier on your psyche. About your question though - I think a prop firm is worth it if you find one that lets you exploit whatever edge you think you are good at(at the moment for you it would be trading futures I suppose). At least with a prop firm you could say you are diversifying on some level. You've become comfortable by not having a job, but that would be a better decision than taking a loan. How long before paying back that loan faster starts lurking in your mind and you take too big of a risk in your trading? Do you think that would work out well?
 
Here's a quick mockup of an interactive Compound Profit Calculator.

You can adjust;

Starting Capital
Risk per Trade
R
Trades taken per month
Number of Winning Trades

The period it calculates for is 48 months (College Degree) but with mouseovers one can see shorter terms.

You'll see the advantage of accessing capital through a Prop firm. Although it doesn't compute profit split or withdrawals.

I purposefully limited the number of trades per month to illustrate the value of high reward setups. If you can't quantify your profit targets to logical levels or zones then one is just guessing anyway.

Good luck with your trading.
 
The period it calculates for is 48 months (College Degree) but with mouseovers one can see shorter terms.

60% 2:1, if you can maintain that, you want to be betting 2% per trade.

If i put in 2%, it says $30 million in 48 months :D vs just 150K with 0.5%
 
@Sprout -- As usual, for you, another valuable post. Thanks

Thank you @MACD, much appreciated.

It’s an interesting little widget. I’m impressed with Grid, just stumbled across it as I was researching Notion. It’s super straightforward to work with.


So for the OP, one can see, even with low risk and 10 trades/mth, and a majority of losses, it’s possible to triple capital in 4yrs - even faster for greater R trades.

The sobering aspect is that living expenses cost much more on the back end by not being able to compound.

Access to capital through a Prop firm is a rational way to go, even if one has capital to trade with. It would be a test on whether their methodology passes muster.
 
60% 2:1, if you can maintain that, you want to be betting 2% per trade.

If i put in 2%, it says $30 million in 48 months :D vs just 150K with 0.5%

Yes, the power of compounding but also how big is one’s roll to start.

If it were only that easy. I’ve gotten profit drunk and failed by not protecting capital as much as I could have. So even though risking 2%, a string of those losses can have a debilitating effect.

Let’s reframe that, not failed, more produced a result. Now to produce some more positive results.
 
Teo Raynor
Wassamatta Raynor?
He gives away eleven pounds a shit in a ten pound bag, man.
Cost? N A D A, lol.
If there's not something for you in here, then there's nothing price action trading for you either.
This is foundational crap for free.
There's a lot of traders that this does not speak to.
Fine, but why badmouth Raynor?
He has an email follow-up program that freakin Amazon.com oughta kipe.
Don't listen to em Raynor. Hope you are mintin a bundle of providing convenient access to Payin Customers that want their hand held and special attention.
Thanks for the freebie starter paks.
Rock and Roll Rayner!

Support and Resistance
https://www.tradingwithrayner.com/support-and-resistance-trading-strategy/
 
Wassamatta Raynor?
He gives away eleven pounds a shit in a ten pound bag, man.
Cost? N A D A, lol.
If there's not something for you in here, then there's nothing price action trading for you either.
This is foundational crap for free.
There's a lot of traders that this does not speak to.
Fine, but why badmouth Raynor?
He has an email follow-up program that freakin Amazon.com oughta kipe.
Don't listen to em Raynor. Hope you are mintin a bundle of providing convenient access to Payin Customers that want their hand held and special attention.
Thanks for the freebie starter paks.
Rock and Roll Rayner!

Support and Resistance
https://www.tradingwithrayner.com/support-and-resistance-trading-strategy/

With 1.62 million subscribers and charging 24.99/month for a Gold membership he doesn't need to make a dime from actual trading. He's probably a multi-millionaire from his youtube income stream alone.
 
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