Advice on buying some Pistols

Also in the chart you see Britain is very close to China. Is that what you want? Here is what has happened in the past.

In Switzerland, every draft-age male is required to maintain a firearm in his home, yet the Swiss murder rate is only 15 percent of the U.S. rate. An added benefit is that no foreign enemy has invaded Switzerland in centuries. Israel, which has the most heavily armed populace, has a negligible crime rate.

But the record of strict gun regulations in other countries is quite dismal. In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents were rounded up and exterminated. In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians were exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938. and from 1939 to 1945 13 million Jews and others were exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935; from 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents were exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964, and from 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians were exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970 — from 1971 to 1979, 300,000 people were exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956, and from 1975 to 1977 one million educated people were exterminated.
 
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This HatetheRisk guy is a complete fool and loser. Probably lives in his Mum's flat. Just look........6.69 post per day! Get a job! You certainly do not trade, at least not profitably!

BTW, the gun ownership chart you posted shows the most violent countries in the world as having the lowest gun ownership. What does that tell you? Mandatory gun in every home in Switzerland..........where is the crime?

Think outside the box, come on you can do it.
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Almost right.

Acutally i am living in a psychatric clinic for heavy cases, after commited my second murder with the gun of a friends, nobody will ever let me out.

I am sorry for my posting quote, i told myself to stop it a lot.
Now i do........thanks.

Only thing i trade, is cigarettes, with other here in my prison.
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You cant convince me, about this guns shit.

If i would have raised in USA, i would think likely the same as you guys, but i havent.....

I just meant, that you do not always need a gun, sometimes to trust other people is better.

What ever.

I am tired of people who insulting me all day long, just because i decided to spend some time here. I thought i like it, but now it sucks.
 
Quote from bmwhendrix:

Also in the chart you see Britain is very close to China. Is that what you want? Here is what has happened in the past.

In Switzerland, every draft-age male is required to maintain a firearm in his home, yet the Swiss murder rate is only 15 percent of the U.S. rate. An added benefit is that no foreign enemy has invaded Switzerland in centuries. Israel, which has the most heavily armed populace, has a negligible crime rate.

But the record of strict gun regulations in other countries is quite dismal. In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents were rounded up and exterminated. In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians were exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938. and from 1939 to 1945 13 million Jews and others were exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935; from 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents were exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964, and from 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians were exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970 — from 1971 to 1979, 300,000 people were exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956, and from 1975 to 1977 one million educated people were exterminated.
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This is ridicolus.

Do you want to say, that if the guns, would not have made illegal in these countries, the societies at this times would have forced their own people to kill other people.

Thats simply totally nonsense.

Holocausts can happen anywhere. Propaghanda together with a mob mass of people and crazy politicans - is always very dangerous and ends in a desaster.

Usually for killing they choose, immigrants or intellectual people, who have an opposite thinking against the current mainstream, in that country.
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Switzerland is a special case, because they havent any army, just very few proffessional soldiers.
So it always was, that Switzerland people is its own army, thats why they are allowed to have guns. Also nobody wants to attack them anyways, they are neutral.

That they have guns, did not stop them to do business with Hitler in the third Reich in Germany......

You can not compare that to the USA.

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I understand what you mean. But i cant accept it.
 
The truth is that every country has it's own set of circumstances. Both the pro and anti gun supporters twist the truth, skew the facts and use pseudo science correlations and statistics.

The right to bear arms has always been a right in America and has become synonymous with preservation of freedom and liberty. In our early days a firearm was necessary for protection and for food, but not so today. Hunting is more of a sport than a necessity for most. The problem I see with a move in the direction of more gun control, is that the end game could be disarming the good citizens. Goverment reacts to crisis or perceived crisis. How well did prohibition work here in the 20's? Why would we expect a ban on gun ownership to work any better than a ban on alcohol. There are untold millions of unregistered guns in America, and as in the 20's, criminals don't obey the laws anyway. How well has our war on marijuana worked? We have filled our jails with small time users while well armed criminal organizations thrive. Why would gun criminalization work any better?

No one will argue that terrible accidents and killings happen, so do car accidents, so do sports deaths. There are many self imposed risks in the world. Mentally disturbed people and those intent of murder will find a way. Are those losses balanced by the lives saved by armed citizens? How many lives are saved because the criminal knows he will be opposed and chooses not to attack or commit a crime? Do you have a "This is a gun free home" sign on your front door?

Suicides are often included in the stats which skew the arguments. If a person is intend on killing themselves they will. In Britain they may use pills, here more use guns. When these deaths are removed from the "crime" statistics, things do not look quite as bad .

Bottom line. If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns and will feel much safer in using them. Suicides by guns will be supplanted by drug overdoses, jumping, etc. Irresponsible gun owners need to be dealt with appropriately. If people choose to hunt and keep guns in their homes, they are accepting the risk, just as if they choose to ride a motorcycle or skydive.

I wish the world was safe, peaceful, fair and just, but it is not.
 
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I just meant, that you do not always need a gun, sometimes to trust other people is better.
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Just exactly how many murderers and rapists do you personally trust?
 
I've been reading up on psychopaths recently. They are not reasonable people at all. I'm finding that they can be swayed by acts of kindness though. Nonetheless when one comes through my bedroom window I'm going to probably incapacitate him physically any way I can.

I have found from past experience that a loose item or piece of furniture that is in my hand is far better than a pistol that is in the next room. I fought back a guy that was huge, [I'm 6' and this guy towered over me] by grabbing a screwdriver and sticking it in his belly and making him go backwards until he fell over something... Quick thinking and the quickest weapon is just great and it has a far better outcome than shooting somebody. He and I were friends after that, had I shot him we'd never be friends...

I'm far more of a pepper spray advocate than a gun advocate. I'd never advocate against gun ownership though. The reality is that an armed population is very hard to take on by enemies domestic or foreign. Japan rejected the idea of invading the US of A from the west because of the armed populace and that freed up our armies to take on Hitler.
 
Get a CCW. A pistol isn't worth much if it's at home when you need it. All you need is 2 references and a clean record (at-least in PA).
 
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Get a CCW. A pistol isn't worth much if it's at home when you need it...
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Have one and I agree. It's easy to get one in most counties here in GA as well.
 
Quote from HATEtheRisk:

yes, i will.

What you gonna do now ?

You dont have to like my bullshit, only i have, to get at least a little entertainment out of this board of a collection of lousy traders.

So go fuck yourself.

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1. Keep your desk in Eurosocial land if you don't like US gun laws
2. Stop being a socially awkward psudeoenglish guy posting cat pictures as motivation
3. Rip out the colon, p, parentheses, d and shift keys from your keyboard

Sorry to be blunt, but someone needs to tell you......
 
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