add/adhd,ausbergers,autism,bipolar...most of these people have high iq's,the percentage who overcome the challenge of these diorders is low,those who make it were loved ,understood,and tolerated as children by supportive ,encouraging parents, mentors, and prayers in a world they had trouble fitting in or being socially accepted,the 1st 15-20 years of life is about social adjustment,if one knows and is confident in thier ability to adapt,they will flourish,those trapped im mental cobwebs often spend thier lives in denial,social withdrawal,depression,self medicaton,your child needs to be shown the number of people who have overcome,have explained to them that this is not a diorder but a superbrain that needs a lot of fine tuning and nourishment,taught to understand the limited scope of society and how to accept and tolerate it while enjoying the gift of life and living it,if the drugs help use em,monitor the affects and tweak em,look for every avenue you can to avoid em and make your child independent
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For those of you who are considering giving your kids drugs, please take a look at the list of medications that may cause violence - and damages to the brain.
Most of the drugs in the top ten most dangerous are antidepressants, but also included are an insomnia medication, an attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) drug, a malaria drug and an anti-smoking medication.
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/031017_violence_prescription_drugs.html#ixzz1CBFOkc7o
Most of the drugs in the top ten most dangerous are antidepressants, but also included are an insomnia medication, an attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) drug, a malaria drug and an anti-smoking medication.
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/031017_violence_prescription_drugs.html#ixzz1CBFOkc7o
http://www.wgntv.com/news/medicalwatch/wgntv-brain-map-jan21,0,5002817.story on the news a few days ago
I am bipolar, and unfortunately also have ADHD, have known for some forty years, both parents had it, and all the males on my father's side has had it going back three generations, so I believe it is more genetic. If this wasn't enough, I also have Klinefelter Syndrome, an extra chromosome which deals in youth with slow development. I have tried so many drugs through the years, for ever one problem they help, most add another two I have to learn about. Coffee works best for me, it allows me to fall asleep easier. Some drugs actually would turn me thinking very wrong things. My brain is constantly in hyper hyper-drive, I am very good at multitasking, when I was younger, no problem day trading in 4-5 futures at same time. I use to have photo memory, age takes it toll. If I get four hours of sleep, it is like 12 hours for others. I got my four year degree and another major in five years-GPA 3.92, worked 60 hours a week in a job, learned about the markets and still had time to play ball with my young son-no problem. Often times, my brain is thinking of a new topic while my speech is trying to catch up when talking to people, takes huge amount of concentrate especially when teaching others to trade. Money and risk at one time meant nothing to me until I redefined my goals to only risk and not profits.
Then there are the episodes of staying awake for 4-5 days without sleep several times a year, I found that allowed me to backtest more. But I always dreamed about sleeping normally. Many times I became irritable cause of a losing trade even though I may have had twenty winning trades, often times I would literally burn methods in fireplace cause it had a couple losing trades a day, then feelings of worthlessness. And yes, have tried many years of chatting with those who had no clue of what it is to be like me. Many would laugh at old series of "Monk" and his unusual ways, in my youth, I recall many were daily occurances.
I found early on to just train myself to "fit in" during social settings, one watches others to study what is norm and do the same. I learned by myself to overcome some of OCD, that doesn't mean I overcame the brain messages I receive, but overcame what I allow other to see. One just becomes like an actor is best way to describe my life. I believe that if I didn't have the OCD, I would have never became so good in my craft, I blew out so many accounts early on, am sure most normal folks would have stopped.
As in day trading and long term trading, I see patterns that reoccur, it is the same when you are bipolar. You notice patterns of brain messages, many are socially unacceptable and are discarded and others are ok. But all are mentally logged and have binders filled of written journals.
Those who have the belief that drugs are not needed when young with ADHD has never been with children for any length of time with it, kids without drugs are bouncing off the wall, and you can change their diet to where they are just eating oatmeal and there is no change. Sticking chess pieces out there and tell them to play, they are more apt to throw those pieces at you or stick them where the sun doesn't shine, unless you have lived in the parents shoes or the kids shoes, you are unqualified. It is so difficult for a parent of a child who has ADHD, one child is like having six kids, parents get old before their time.
I am ab-normal, abby normal, LOL. But I know what I have and deal with it without drugs. I am very fortunate to have the aptitude to understand what is socially acceptable and what isn't, whereas many are required to be drugged out of their minds. I have become very good at dealing with my diseases, very few people can ever guess if I am up/down. And I don't allow my disease to become a crutch like so many people do, you learn everything you can about yourself and use it to your advantage. And I try to help others that have one or both of my problems, it allows me to understand myself better.
In recent couple of years, I have gotten a few medical immune diseases which has slowed my abilities down, so much so, I will be curtailling almost all day trading end of April, am getting way too irritable not to be able to do what I once did. I am going to redirect my energies to where the big money actually is, more of longer term trading.
Then there are the episodes of staying awake for 4-5 days without sleep several times a year, I found that allowed me to backtest more. But I always dreamed about sleeping normally. Many times I became irritable cause of a losing trade even though I may have had twenty winning trades, often times I would literally burn methods in fireplace cause it had a couple losing trades a day, then feelings of worthlessness. And yes, have tried many years of chatting with those who had no clue of what it is to be like me. Many would laugh at old series of "Monk" and his unusual ways, in my youth, I recall many were daily occurances.
I found early on to just train myself to "fit in" during social settings, one watches others to study what is norm and do the same. I learned by myself to overcome some of OCD, that doesn't mean I overcame the brain messages I receive, but overcame what I allow other to see. One just becomes like an actor is best way to describe my life. I believe that if I didn't have the OCD, I would have never became so good in my craft, I blew out so many accounts early on, am sure most normal folks would have stopped.
As in day trading and long term trading, I see patterns that reoccur, it is the same when you are bipolar. You notice patterns of brain messages, many are socially unacceptable and are discarded and others are ok. But all are mentally logged and have binders filled of written journals.
Those who have the belief that drugs are not needed when young with ADHD has never been with children for any length of time with it, kids without drugs are bouncing off the wall, and you can change their diet to where they are just eating oatmeal and there is no change. Sticking chess pieces out there and tell them to play, they are more apt to throw those pieces at you or stick them where the sun doesn't shine, unless you have lived in the parents shoes or the kids shoes, you are unqualified. It is so difficult for a parent of a child who has ADHD, one child is like having six kids, parents get old before their time.
I am ab-normal, abby normal, LOL. But I know what I have and deal with it without drugs. I am very fortunate to have the aptitude to understand what is socially acceptable and what isn't, whereas many are required to be drugged out of their minds. I have become very good at dealing with my diseases, very few people can ever guess if I am up/down. And I don't allow my disease to become a crutch like so many people do, you learn everything you can about yourself and use it to your advantage. And I try to help others that have one or both of my problems, it allows me to understand myself better.
In recent couple of years, I have gotten a few medical immune diseases which has slowed my abilities down, so much so, I will be curtailling almost all day trading end of April, am getting way too irritable not to be able to do what I once did. I am going to redirect my energies to where the big money actually is, more of longer term trading.
Handle123, very interesting... Thanks for having the courage to share all of that.
Handle123, thanks for your most interesting post. Well - ADHD folks can make it - if the intelligence, aptitude and a suitable mentor or learning environment is there.
ADHD kids have difficulty sitting quiet in boring schoolrooms, that doesn't mean they can't learn. Perhaps they need an interest that engage them.
For adults with ADHD, a regimental production-type work environment destroys the spirit.
ADHD kids have difficulty sitting quiet in boring schoolrooms, that doesn't mean they can't learn. Perhaps they need an interest that engage them.
For adults with ADHD, a regimental production-type work environment destroys the spirit.
Quantum Mind Power is your answer.
I was prescribed 30mg of Adderall XR but had what felt like an irregular heart beat and I also got tired of feeling so dependent on it. I quit the Adderall and I started regularly taking Piracetam, Alpha GPC, ALCAR and NA-r-ALA on an empty stomach first thing in the morning. Before I start each trading session I listen to the Neural Synergy 1 track and it really helps me sort and analyze a lot of information, especially numbers. The results have really been miraculous.
I've tried all the others, BrainSync, HoloSync, etc and they are NOTHING compared to QMP.
Good luck.
I was prescribed 30mg of Adderall XR but had what felt like an irregular heart beat and I also got tired of feeling so dependent on it. I quit the Adderall and I started regularly taking Piracetam, Alpha GPC, ALCAR and NA-r-ALA on an empty stomach first thing in the morning. Before I start each trading session I listen to the Neural Synergy 1 track and it really helps me sort and analyze a lot of information, especially numbers. The results have really been miraculous.
I've tried all the others, BrainSync, HoloSync, etc and they are NOTHING compared to QMP.
Good luck.