ACLU hits a new low...ACLU: Sex in Restroom Stalls Is Private...

I just don't share the same tendencies that you do nor do I want to be bothered in the men's room by some deviant.

Here are the phone numbers to Senator Craig's offices. I suggest you give him a buzz. Try DC first, you might get lucky and run into Barney Frank on your way to Union Station.

Boise
208-342-7985 Coeur d'Alene
208-667-6130 Idaho Falls
208-523-5541 Lewiston
208-743-0792 Pocatello
208-236-6817 Twin Falls
208-734-6780
Washington, DC
202-224-2752


Quote from armoured saint:

you are so uptight, it's sad .
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I'm a homophobe because you think it's ok to try and sneak a peek at my penis and wink at me in a men's bathroom?

Go peek over the stall in a women's bathroom to catch a peak and give a wink and you'll end up in prison.

You just don't get it.


Quote from armoured saint:

yep, way uptight homophobe..prolly can't get an erection w/o handful cialis and 24 hrs prior notice :D

what a hero
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Quote from SWScapital:

Does an expectation of privacy stand when you are sitting in the crapper next door and you hear moaning and skin slapping together?

What about if you were in a restroom with your son/daughter..teaching them to use the facilities and two pervs who cant wait to get to a hotel start fucking next door? Would you stand for that? Give me break.
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Is that what happened in the Craig case? -- if not, no break given.

JB
 
Quote from SWScapital:

Does an expectation of privacy stand when you are sitting in the crapper next door and you hear moaning and skin slapping together?

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To this aspect of the equation, no-in said instance, you do what everyone would do nowadays, get some mobile camera footage, and post it on youtube.

Expectation of privacy is redundant, it would seem, in the digital age-at worst it can works both ways, on the face of it, a marginally fair compromise.
 
can't have sex in public restrooms now? some of u guys must have been pretty boring teen-agers back in the days...........
 
Quote from John_Wensink:

How anyone can support these people is beyond comprehension.

ACLU: Sex in Restroom Stalls Is Private
AP - Wednesday, January 16ST. PAUL, Minn. - In an effort to help Sen. Larry Craig, the American Civil Liberties Union is arguing that people who have sex in public bathrooms have an expectation of privacy.

The ACLU filed a brief Tuesday supporting Craig. It cited a Minnesota Supreme Court ruling 38 years ago that found that people who have sex in closed stalls in public restrooms "have a reasonable expectation of privacy."
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The specifics of Craig's situation is a side issue. The more important issue is the ALCU argument that sex - not just sexual solicitation - is OK in a public washroom stall.

An individual has an expectation of privacy in a washroom stall but the expectation of privacy doesn't trump all other concerns. Is it OK to molest children or commit murder in the privacy of your home?

If it's OK to have sex in a public washroom stall then it's OK to grunt, moan, crash around and do all the other things people are liable to do when they're having sex ( except have the after-sex smoke, of course ). In other words, it will likely be aggressively obvious to others in the washroom what's going on in that stall.

The majority of men find homosexual activities disgusting. This revulsion can't be flippantly dismissed as homophobia or prudishness.

Many homosexuals find heterosexual activity disgusting. Most of us find the idea of beastiality or gratification through shit-eating disgusting. Most of us have a tendency to find the sexual habits of those whose preferences differ from our own revolting. Whether or not this is natural or socially ingrained is irrelevant. It's how we are.

We accept others' shitting in washroom stalls because it's one of those many compromises we must accept for practical reasons. But most of us are pretty quiet when we go about our defecating and don't make others conscious of what we're doing other than by way of contributing to the general washroom stink. But how about the guy in his stall who's farting and grunting up a storm? We want to get the hell outta there because he makes us conscious of what's going on in the stall.. and we don't really want it brought to mind.

The noises summon up a mental image we find unpleasant.

The idea of guys bumfucking in a public stall is for most men an ugly image they don't want brought to mind. If there were some way to guarantee that this stuff could be conducted in a manner that it wouldn't inflict itself on the awareness of others there might be some justification for placing it under the expectation of privacy aegis - but pending soundproof stalls there isn't.

Lastly, we often must get to a washroom to relieve ourselves, but people who are so disturbed that they simply must get to a toilet to have casual sex are rare.

There's no need for sex in public washrooms. It's disturbing to others. Others have a right to peace of mind that trumps the compulsions of the sexually disturbed.
 
Dr:
>The specifics of Craig's situation is a side
>issue. The more important issue is the ALCU
>argument that sex - not just sexual solicitation -
>is OK in a public washroom stall.

That is NOT what the ACLU is arguing.

They are not arguing the legality of the activity itself, but the expectation of privacy in a "public" bathroom stall.

>An individual has an expectation of privacy in a washroom
>stall but the expectation of privacy doesn't trump all other
>concerns. Is it OK to molest children or commit murder in the
>privacy of your home?

Of course it isn't, but we've long established in this country that the police can't just look through your windows because they *think* you may be molesting children in the privacy of your home. There is a system by which probably cause must be established.

The ACLU is arguing that a similar situation exists once you close your bathroom stall door -- the cops can't just sit there and peer through the cracks while you do ... *whatever*.

JB
 
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