Don't hate the playa', hate the game. You're spot on with your assessment of our immigration shell game. As I have written here many, many times, neither party really wants to do anything of substance about this problem and it goes waaaaaay back. Who was the first guy to deliver amnesty? Why it's the conservative hero Ronnie Rayguns. Was he just too stupid to figure out he was being played, or just didn't give a shit like the rest? Who knows, who cares, the end result is always the same. It's a golden goose on the never ending campaign trail for both of our criminally corrupt parties, and they ain't about to kill it. A few dead illegals are golden for leftists and a few dead Americans at the hands of illegals are sure vote getters for republicans. But they care about the people...sure they do. I wish it was political incompetence, that could be fixed, but it's something much, much worse, it's indifference and they're untouchable. But go vote, it matters. HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa
According to the donkeys at MSNBC, we are now running concentration camps.
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To Obama's credit, he ended private prison contracts for immigration detention ( Trump reinstituted them). He also put in place DACA, and reinstituted catch and release after he realized the GOP weren't serious about fixing the issue when he hardened on enforcement (dream act failure in the Senate, multiple CIR failures, etc...)
but tell me how you really feel about Jesse Jackson being the speaker of all blacks?
https://www.esquire.com/news-politi...rn-border-migrant-detention-facilities-trump/
An Expert on Concentration Camps Says That's Exactly What the U.S. Is Running at the Border
"Things can be concentration camps without being Dachau or Auschwitz."
“We have what I would call a concentration camp system,” Pitzer says, “and the definition of that in my book is, mass detention of civilians without trial.”
Historians use a broader definition of concentration camps, as well.
"What's required is a little bit of demystification of it," says Waitman Wade Beorn, a Holocaust and genocide studies historian and a lecturer at the University of Virginia. "Things can be concentration camps without being Dachau or Auschwitz. Concentration camps in general have always been designed—at the most basic level—to separate one group of people from another group. Usually, because the majority group, or the creators of the camp, deem the people they're putting in it to be dangerous or undesirable in some way."
About 1,100 are being housed temporarily at a facility at Lackland Air Force Base here.
"Every night, there's about 300 to 400 kids that come in without parents. This is just in the lower Rio Grande Valley," said Rep. Henry Cuellar, D-Texas.
In recent years, the number of children younger than 18 found trying to cross the Mexican border without their parents has skyrocketed. Between 2003 and 2011, between 6,000 and 7,500 children a year were landing in the custody of Department of Health and Human Services' Office of Refugee Resettlement program.
Several temporary and permanent resettlement centers on the border have opened just to house unaccompanied migrant children. But the HHS' Administration for Children & Families, which has responsibility for the children, won't say where the centers are or how much is being spent for the kids' care.
Under federal law, the unaccompanied children are supposed to be turned over to HHS within 72 hours. Most are then reunited with parents or other relatives already living in the United States.
But because of the massive influx of children this year, Customs and Border Protection has been forced to house many children in local patrol stations and recently has moved some young immigrants to Nogales, Ariz., where they are living temporarily in a warehouse.
I'm not saying don't monitor entries or stop detaining crossers, but don't rip them from their parents for months in the name of politics or profit.
Both the kids and the parents together are welcome to apply for asylum at the U.S. embassy offices in Mexico and be together while they await their hearing.
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https://www.vox.com/first-person/20...cortez-concentration-camps-immigration-border
I’m a Jewish historian. Yes, we should call border detention centers “concentration camps.”
It isn’t just accurate. It’s necessary.
Meanwhile, Americans offended at the use of “concentration camp” should acquaint themselves with our own history of civilian detention. As early as 1862, American forces interned Dakota women and children at Fort Snelling. George Takei tweeted this week regarding the mass internment of Japanese Americans during World War II, “I know what concentration camps are. I was inside two of them, in America. And yes, we are operating such camps again.”
Applying the term “concentration camp” to the indefinite detention without trial of thousands of civilians in inhumane conditions — under armed guard and without adequate provisions or medical care — is not just appropriate, it’s necessary. Invoking the word does not demean the memory of the Holocaust. Instead, the lessons of the Holocaust will be lost if we refuse to engage with them.
New leftist speak tells us that a concentration of people is now a concentration camp. Even Orwell would be rolling his eyes.
the term was coined in the 1800s, but nice try
I am not saying Trump has not fucked it up even worse but AOC is just screaming for attention and the Dems are getting on board bandwagon simply for political points because they had opportunities just like the GOP to fix this and stop the dam bursting at the border and failed so both parties win simply by pointing the finger.
They don't want to solve it and cared little for the issue but AOC as usual just stands up and shouts and the Dems have put her on a pedastel and it gets repeated over and over again. What is their solution? Sanctuary cities and protection for undocumented people rather than look at why detention centers are overflowing and the staff is complaining they don't have the resources to humanely treat and care for everyone.
I am the son of immigrants (both came legally and escaping 2 different shit situations so I empathize with those who come her for same reason and immigration is important to me as an issue.) But it went from a specific process to both parties walking away from it and leaving a mess for those who want to come here and those who have to process them.
But one party stigmatizes groups of immigrants and rallies the country to cut it off 100% the other portrays that people should be allowed to come across in any numbers means they leave a shit show for those who truly want to benefit from the process. Both parties have shifted extreme from the middle which means nothing will be done.