So you are admitting that illegal immigrants are predators. Good to see you coming around.
According to the donkeys at MSNBC, we are now running concentration camps.
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So you are admitting that illegal immigrants are predators. Good to see you coming around.
Any assaults, sexual or otherwise, lay squarely in the laps of the irresponsible parents and those doing the assaulting. Leftist just doing what they do best, which is exploiting victims to drive their political narrative.
I'm saying a small number of predators commit the largest number of sex crimes in a random population yes. Nice deflection though
"Hey guise, those kids in foster care who've been molested by their sponsors? Fuck those kids, they had it coming cuz of their irresponsible parents."
So your claim is that we should set these predators who are in the U.S. illegally free so they can prey on our citizens and school children.
“the law holds that it is better that 10 guilty persons escape, than that 1 innocent suffer"__William Blackstone
Also, we used to have a thing called due process even for immigrant minor children. It used to be applied ex post facto too, not preemptively.
Where has your concern been for all of the kids abused and used by foster parents over the years? It's only a problem for you when illegals are involved? Bullshit. Once again, exploit the crisis to push the political narrative. The worse it gets the better you lefties like it which is why you're doing everything in your power to overwhelm the system.
we've established you're ok w/molesting foster kids, you don't have a say in this conversation.
The only thing established is that the left has no problem sacrificing a few illegals for the greater good of pushing open borders radical leftism. Got to break a few eggs to make a omelet.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...n-more-separated-children-judge-rules-n981296
Trump administration responsible for even more separated children, judge rules
"The hallmark of a civilized society is measured by how it treats its people and those within its borders," the judge wrote.
WASHINGTON — A federal judge on Friday ruled that the Trump administration is responsible for migrant children separated even before it instituted a "zero tolerance" policy.
The ruling followed a report from the Department of Health and Human Services Inspector General that found that "potentially thousands" of children were separated from their parents between June 2017 and May 2018, when the Trump administration began prosecuting under the zero tolerance policy all those crossing the border illegally and separating parents from their children in the process.
The plaintiffs in the case, led by the American Civil Liberties Union, had argued that these children should be included in the class action lawsuit so that they, like the 2,800 children separated under zero tolerance, could potentially be reunified with their parents Lawyers for the Trump administration had argued that the process would be overly burdensome because the vast majority of the children have likely already left government custody.
In his ruling on Friday, Judge Dana Sabraw of the Southern District of California wrote that isn't a sufficient reason to deny the administration's responsibility for the children.
"The hallmark of a civilized society is measured by how it treats its people and those within its borders," Sabraw wrote. "That Defendants may have to change course and undertake additional effort to address these issues does not render modification of the class definition unfair; it only serves to underscore the unquestionable importance of the effort and why it is necessary (and worthwhile)."
For now, the children are only included in the lawsuit, and Sabraw has not ordered that the government reunite them with their families.
Last month, Sabraw said he would first rule on whether these children were included under the class and then he would decide how the government should respond — and if that includes finding them, counting them and potentially reunifying them by a certain deadline.
Trump administration responsible for even more separated children, judge rules
"The hallmark of a civilized society is measured by how it treats its people and those within its borders," the judge wrote.
WASHINGTON — A federal judge on Friday ruled that the Trump administration is responsible for migrant children separated even before it instituted a "zero tolerance" policy.
The ruling followed a report from the Department of Health and Human Services Inspector General that found that "potentially thousands" of children were separated from their parents between June 2017 and May 2018, when the Trump administration began prosecuting under the zero tolerance policy all those crossing the border illegally and separating parents from their children in the process.
The plaintiffs in the case, led by the American Civil Liberties Union, had argued that these children should be included in the class action lawsuit so that they, like the 2,800 children separated under zero tolerance, could potentially be reunified with their parents Lawyers for the Trump administration had argued that the process would be overly burdensome because the vast majority of the children have likely already left government custody.
In his ruling on Friday, Judge Dana Sabraw of the Southern District of California wrote that isn't a sufficient reason to deny the administration's responsibility for the children.
"The hallmark of a civilized society is measured by how it treats its people and those within its borders," Sabraw wrote. "That Defendants may have to change course and undertake additional effort to address these issues does not render modification of the class definition unfair; it only serves to underscore the unquestionable importance of the effort and why it is necessary (and worthwhile)."
For now, the children are only included in the lawsuit, and Sabraw has not ordered that the government reunite them with their families.
Last month, Sabraw said he would first rule on whether these children were included under the class and then he would decide how the government should respond — and if that includes finding them, counting them and potentially reunifying them by a certain deadline.
Just so it's clear, tax payers paid for the increased expense of incarceration/housing from this dumbassery, and now they're about to pay for the restitution of said dumbassery.
https://lawandcrime.com/immigration...rt-case-targeting-ice-over-family-separation/
Trump Admin Loses Big on Immigration in Federal Court Case Targeting ICE Over Family Separation
In a massive legal blow to the Trump administration, a federal judge late Friday ruled that all immigrant families impacted by the government’s widely-reviled family separation policy be included in an ongoing class-action lawsuit.
This ruling is a direct victory for the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)–which originally brought the litigation on behalf of an immigrant mother whose daughter was ripped from her arms by U.S. immigration authorities last spring before being each were detained separately some 2,000 miles apart.
In a 14-page ruling, U.S. District Judge Dana M. Sabraw said that he was expanding the universe of parties included in the present litigation due to an “undisputed” report from the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of Inspector General (OIG) which detailed how the Trump administration separated thousands more children from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border than previously acknowledged.
“Clearly, the OIG Report is a significant development in this case,” Sabraw noted. “And, importantly,the contents of the Report are undisputed.”
The judge summed up this report as follows:
The most significant facts to come out of the Report are (1) that in the summer of 2017, [the Department of Justice] and DHS were separating parents and children at the border pursuant to the Administration’s new policy, and (2) during and after that time, potentially thousands of children who had been separated from a parent were received by [the Office of Refugee Resettlement] and subsequently discharged from ORR custody to designated sponsors…prior to the [court order ending the family separation policy.]
As Law&Crime reported at the time, there are no precise numbers of separated children available because the government simply didn’t keep track of them. Rather, the Trump administration only began keeping track of separated immigrant children at the behest of the above-referenced court order issued by Sabraw in late June 2018.
Sabraw also outlined the report’s data:
Although the Administration’s zero tolerance policy was publicly announced in May 2018, the OIG Report states, “From July through November 2017, the El Paso sector of Customs and Border Protection (CBP), an agency within DHS, implemented new policies that resulted in 281 families being separated.” During this same period, July through November 2017, ORR staff “observed a significant increase in the number and proportion of separated children (i.e., children separated from their parent or legal guardian by DHS) relative to other UACs [unaccompanied alien children].” (Id.) “Overall, ORR and ASPR [the Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response] officials estimate that thousands of separated children entered ORR care and were released prior to the June 26, 2018 court order.
Now, because the administration effectively told on itself, immigration agencies have no choice but to allow the untold number of families affected by the unpopular policy becomes parties to the ACLU’s continuing legal battle.
The order also witheringly takes the administration to task for their initial–and repeated–denials that the family separation policy even existed.
“Defendants suggest [the DHS OIG report’s information] is not a new development, but rather something the parties knew about, or should have known about,” Sabraw notes. “However, that suggestion stands in stark contrast to Defendants’ representations in this case in as late as May of 2018 that the government did not have either a policy or practice of separating families at the border.”
Last year, the Trump administration mislead Sabraw by claiming that there was no official policy of family separation. Later news reports–and internal administration memos–proved the falsity of the claims made by various administration apparatchiks and attorneys.
https://lawandcrime.com/immigration...rt-case-targeting-ice-over-family-separation/
Trump Admin Loses Big on Immigration in Federal Court Case Targeting ICE Over Family Separation
In a massive legal blow to the Trump administration, a federal judge late Friday ruled that all immigrant families impacted by the government’s widely-reviled family separation policy be included in an ongoing class-action lawsuit.
This ruling is a direct victory for the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)–which originally brought the litigation on behalf of an immigrant mother whose daughter was ripped from her arms by U.S. immigration authorities last spring before being each were detained separately some 2,000 miles apart.
In a 14-page ruling, U.S. District Judge Dana M. Sabraw said that he was expanding the universe of parties included in the present litigation due to an “undisputed” report from the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Office of Inspector General (OIG) which detailed how the Trump administration separated thousands more children from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border than previously acknowledged.
“Clearly, the OIG Report is a significant development in this case,” Sabraw noted. “And, importantly,the contents of the Report are undisputed.”
The judge summed up this report as follows:
The most significant facts to come out of the Report are (1) that in the summer of 2017, [the Department of Justice] and DHS were separating parents and children at the border pursuant to the Administration’s new policy, and (2) during and after that time, potentially thousands of children who had been separated from a parent were received by [the Office of Refugee Resettlement] and subsequently discharged from ORR custody to designated sponsors…prior to the [court order ending the family separation policy.]
As Law&Crime reported at the time, there are no precise numbers of separated children available because the government simply didn’t keep track of them. Rather, the Trump administration only began keeping track of separated immigrant children at the behest of the above-referenced court order issued by Sabraw in late June 2018.
Sabraw also outlined the report’s data:
Although the Administration’s zero tolerance policy was publicly announced in May 2018, the OIG Report states, “From July through November 2017, the El Paso sector of Customs and Border Protection (CBP), an agency within DHS, implemented new policies that resulted in 281 families being separated.” During this same period, July through November 2017, ORR staff “observed a significant increase in the number and proportion of separated children (i.e., children separated from their parent or legal guardian by DHS) relative to other UACs [unaccompanied alien children].” (Id.) “Overall, ORR and ASPR [the Office of the Assistant Secretary for Preparedness and Response] officials estimate that thousands of separated children entered ORR care and were released prior to the June 26, 2018 court order.
Now, because the administration effectively told on itself, immigration agencies have no choice but to allow the untold number of families affected by the unpopular policy becomes parties to the ACLU’s continuing legal battle.
The order also witheringly takes the administration to task for their initial–and repeated–denials that the family separation policy even existed.
“Defendants suggest [the DHS OIG report’s information] is not a new development, but rather something the parties knew about, or should have known about,” Sabraw notes. “However, that suggestion stands in stark contrast to Defendants’ representations in this case in as late as May of 2018 that the government did not have either a policy or practice of separating families at the border.”
Last year, the Trump administration mislead Sabraw by claiming that there was no official policy of family separation. Later news reports–and internal administration memos–proved the falsity of the claims made by various administration apparatchiks and attorneys.