ABX Indices stuck @ lows

[Cdntrader]

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Wow didn't think it was possible but...yes boys and girls NEW LOWS! across the board AAA's to BBB's!

http://markit.com/information/products/category/indices/abx.html

The downside is comin fast and furious now on AAA's. Must be end of year purge.


16 months and counting..............

 

[Cdntrader]

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The downside is comin fast and furious now on AAA's. Must be end of year purge.


16 months and counting..............

hmm V bottom. We will see how it plays out into yr end.

 

[Daal]

Quote from Cdntrader:

hmm V bottom. We will see how it plays out into yr end.

you've got to wonder whos doing all the selling. one would think that by now every bank would have hedged, perhaps the folks from mortgage risk management now are on the hedging department

 

[Cdntrader]

Quote from Daal:

you've got to wonder whos doing all the selling. one would think that by now every bank would have hedged, perhaps the folks from mortgage risk management now are on the hedging department

ABX indices pounded right back this week. This could be some show into year end.


No wonder mkt is worried about MS GS reporting on Dec 16th/17th

 

[Cdntrader]

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ABX indices pounded right back this week. This could be some show into year end.


No wonder mkt is worried about MS GS reporting on Dec 16th/17th

another down day. Looks like end of year flush on tap.

One has to wonder if these things have ANY value @ all, regardless of rating.

 

[Cdntrader]

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another down day. Looks like end of year flush on tap.

One has to wonder if these things have ANY value @ all, regardless of rating.

Well Fed has created a bottom. ABX AAAA, AAA's off and running.

 

[Daal]

Quote from Cdntrader:

Well Fed has created a bottom. ABX AAAA, AAA's off and running.

Jim grant was on bloomberg saying he's buying super senior mortgage backed stuff because they were at 20-40c on the dollar the they are 'money good' as a long defaults and severities dont go to the stratosphere, he said one could buy through ETFs. any idea of ETFs that has this?MBB seems to be agency debt only

 

[Cdntrader]

Quote from Daal:

Jim grant was on bloomberg saying he's buying super senior mortgage backed stuff because they were at 20-40c on the dollar the they are 'money good' as a long defaults and severities dont go to the stratosphere, he said one could buy through ETFs. any idea of ETFs that has this?MBB seems to be agency debt only

http://us.ishares.com/product_info/fund/overview/MBB.htm?

 

[RiceRocket]

I've been watching these lately. Even the BBB paper is off the lows. The equity markets have not rallied at all in 2 weeks, only consolidation. I suspect we are due for a massive spike higher.

 

[Cdntrader]

And..........more new lows! AAA all the way down.


18 months and counting..............