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Quote from dddooo:

Dead people have no rights but criminals are still responsible for their crimes and governments have a right (and responsibility) to punish criminals. What do these two things have to do with each other?
This was the point I was trying to make in the first place. There are moonbats who believe those criminals shouldn't be punished via capital punishment. Some, as in many of Tookie Williams' supporters, make the criminal out to be a hero and discard what happened to the victims.

LOL you're the one making accusations but I am supposed to find facts for you. You're losing it hapa.
I'm tired of repeating that I don't want to engage in a flame war with you.

If you believe there have not been posters on ET or certain members of the far left (who I call "moonbats") who have expressed their beliefs that show they feel more sympathy for criminals than for the victims, fine by me.

I used to engage you, dddooo, in the hopes that there would be a useful exchange of some sort. More and more I'm realizing there is no value at all in our exchanges.

Perhaps you should put me on Ignore.
 
Quote from g222:

How would ending immigration ensure that it wouldn't even matter how much islam sucks?

Well, if no one more people are allowed to immigrate, then it makes it a lot harder for fresh Islamic blood to infect our countries with their primitive culture.

Get it? Muslims can be as backward as they like as long as they're doing it elsewhere.
 
Quote from spect8or:

Well, if no one more people are allowed to immigrate, then it makes it a lot harder for fresh Islamic blood to infect our countries with their primitive culture.

Get it? Muslims can be as backward as they like as long as they're doing it elsewhere.


Good point. But to totally eliminate immigration would keep some quality people out as well.
 
Quote from hapaboy:

This was the point I was trying to make in the first place. There are moonbats who believe those criminals shouldn't be punished via capital punishment.
So if someone disagrees with you on capital punishment that person must be a terrorist/criminal sympathizer who does not give a rat's ass about the victims, right? Way to go hapa!!!

Some, as in many of Tookie Williams' supporters, make the criminal out to be a hero and discard what happened to the victims.
No, some just wanted to spare his life, others believed he was innocent or he had changed enough to deserve forgiveness. None of that had anything to with their hatred of the victims you keep talkig about. It's not them hapa, it's you with your rigid (my capital punishment way or the highway) POV who has problems.

I used to engage you, dddooo, in the hopes that there would be a useful exchange of some sort.
You have always been wrong hapa. You supported Bush for years and he turned out to be an empty suit as predicted, you supported the war in iraq which turned out to be wrong, immoral and illegal as predicted, the war is now a complete failure, disaster and quagmire also as predicted. Your party stands for nothing as predicted, it does not stand for border security and illegal immigration, it does not stand for small government, balanced budget and fiscal responsibility, during the last 6 years your party has failed in virtually everything it tried. So please, don't blame me for exposing your mistakes/lies/inconsistencies etc, blame Coulters and Limbaughs of the world who mislead you in the first place.

PS you don't even have intellectual honesty to admit that when you were talking about "murderers loving victims hating" moonbats you meant the entire left, not just 15 wacky Tookie's supporters who probably never vote anyway and whose quotes on how they hate the victims you have also failed to produce. You don't even have the guts to admit that you were wrong.
 
Quote from dddooo:

So if someone disagrees with you on capital punishment that person must be a terrorist/criminal sympathizer who does not give a rat's ass about the victims, right? Way to go hapa!!!
Again, no. However, it is interesting that you are so critical of capital punishment yet unequivocally support the Israeli policy of assassinating Palestinian militants instead of capturing them. Utter hypocrisy. Way to go, dddooo!!

No, some just wanted to spare his life, others believed he was innocent or he had changed enough to deserve forgiveness. None of that had anything to with their hatred of the victims you keep talkig about. It's not them hapa, it's you with your rigid (my capital punishment way or the highway) POV who has problems.
Obviously you haven't done an iota of research into what many Tookie Williams supporters said. Furthermore, where did I say these moonbats "hate" the victims? I didn't, of course. As you have done over and over through the years, you invent statements that do not exist.

That moonbats elevate criminals to hero status and disregard their crimes does not mean they "hate" the victims. Forgetting them completely doesn't mean you hate them, just that you don't care about what happened to them. For example, I really don't care what happens to you, but I don't hate you.

You have always been wrong hapa.
And let me guess: you have always been right, dddooo. ROFLMAO!

You supported Bush for years and he turned out to be an empty suit as predicted,
Here you go again making broad statements without a basis in fact. If you bothered to take off your blinders you would know that I have criticized Bush on many issues. Because of the fact that I supported the invasion of Iraq, you immediately presume that I support Bush in all that he does. As usual, your presumptions are incorrect.

that you supported the war in iraq which turned out to be wrong, immoral and illegal as predicted, the war is now a complete failure, disaster and quagmire also as predicted.
It is your opinion that the war is wrong, immoral, illegal, a failure, and quagmire.

Your party stands for nothing as predicted, it does not stand for border security and illegal immigration, it does not stand for small government, balanced budget and fiscal responsibility, during the last 6 years your party has failed in virtually everything it tried.
Your opinion, only. And oh, by the way, I have stated that Bush has really fucked up border security and illegal immigration.

So please, don't blame me for exposing your mistakes/lies/inconsistencies etc, blame Coulters and Limbaughs of the world who mislead you in the first place.
You have exposed nothing except your penchant for jumping to conclusions and being irrational. Please don't blame me for that.

PS you don't even have intellectual honesty to admit that when you were talking about "murderers loving victims hating" moonbats you meant the entire left, not just 15 wacky Tookie's supporters who probably never vote anyway and whose quotes on how they hate the victims you have also failed to produce.
Show me where I stated the "entire Left." Of course you can't, because I haven't. Here you go again jumping to conclusions. You're very good at that. And you have no basis talking about intellectual honesty as you are neither an intellectual or honest.

You don't even have the guts to admit that you were wrong.
If and when you prove me wrong, I will gladly admit it. As that is unlikely to ever happen given your failed reasoning and lack of factual data to back up your assertions, I'm not too worried.
 
Quote from g222:

Good point. But to totally eliminate immigration would keep some quality people out as well.

So what?

We'd be doing those nations a favor then, by letting them keep their quality people.

If you must have some immigration, then just let a handful of stars in. But definitely end the 'family reunification' insanity. (Immigrants can still be 'reunified' - back in their home country.)
 
Quote from dddooo:

Are you saying that people who are against capital punishment "feel more sympathy for murdering criminals than victims"? Cause you obviously failed to come up with any other example of moonbats more sympathetic to criminals than victims.

PS you made a rude, dumb, inflamatory and baseless statement hapa, you have absolutely nothing to back it up, you're being evasive and dishonest, stop accusing me of starting a flame war.

Little ddd boy...You are so full of shit. Your game of presenting yourself as a moderate is so cheesy I can only laugh.

A Zionist like you will try to align himself with the left in an attempt to provid a balancing act the otherwise well known fascistic right wing Zionist stands.

So let me ask you oh progressive man, why is it that you PULL THE ACT of being against capital punishment in the US yet you are whole heartily for extra Judaical executions in the Palestinian occupied territories via your so called precision missiles that take the lives of people you perceive as your enemies ALONG WITH THEIR FAMILIES.
 
Quote from jem:

So we can see the following.

zzz and el cubano both think we would be better off having left al queda and OBL untouched in an afghanistan. An afghanistan led by a Taliban govt related to OBL by marriage.

Is that correct?

oh brother....have a great day..
 
Quote from WAEL012000:

Love your silence ddd!
LOL, are you out of your mind wael, it's sunday, I was at a party. Get a life man.

As far as the issue is concerned, I support capital punishment so my position is 100% consistent, besides capital punishment is a judicial concept and Arabs are at war with Israel, legal concepts don't apply at a time of war. More importantly while I am in favor of capital punishment I (unlike Hapa) have no problem with people who are against it and don't consider them terrorist loving victim hating traitors. Do you two get it now or that was too hard?
 
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