Abu Musab al-Zarqawi Dead

[ratboy88]

Quote from jem:

ratboy, you think your are to the right, but if you are the the guy with the conspriacy theiries, you are so far right on the the sprectrum you have bent around back to the left. Or at least many of your ideas are associated with the far left.....

nope not at all.... name one topic where i am in agreement with the liberal left. i agree that they gave the murdering bastards the green light to bomb the hell out of iraq. they are also to blame. i voted for the smirking chimp in 2000 and have regretted it ever since. i am against open borders and of course i am against amnesty. i am against "globalization," something these neocons hold dearly. i am against big govt and reckless spending yet the republicans have blown away any deficits the democrats have created. i am against lying and planning a war that has cost thousands and thousands of innocent lives. i am against corporate welfare. i am against outsourcing. i am against refusing to publish M3 figures. im against imminent domain. i am for the 2nd amendment as is. i am for freedom of assembly, something this administration has violated continuously. i am for due process for all citizens and think "enemy combatants" should not apply to americans on this soil. i believe the constitution is not a living document. i believe asking questions about wtc7 is within my rights and dont give a shit what anyone else thinks about it. i believe the federal reserve has ruined the financial integrity of this country through fiat money and i know one day there will be hell to pay. i believe the patriot act was written way before 9/11 and passed without anyone reading it. i believe if you mess with my first amendment rights i will use my 2nd amendment rights. i believe we are a republic not a democracy. i believe the establishment clause is a joke when used to remove my niece's christmas party from school.

sound like a liberal? any questions? i can continue.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from hapaboy:

First of all, if you weren't inferring anything, why would you then ask me for the names of people?

Second of all, I do not wish to be dragged into a flame war. There are numerous quotes you could find of people who have made posts on ET that obviously illustrate that they believe more strongly in the rights of criminals than victims. I believe you yourself have been involved in some of those threads. The point is, I'm not going to take your bait, as it is obviously designed to start a flame war. Very transparent, dddooo, you're losing it...

Third, did you do a search for Tookie Williams on Google? If so, I'm sure you found plenty examples of moonbats being more concerned with Tookie's rights than the lives of the people he murdered.

Fourth, this is all predicated on what you consider a moonbat. Your definition is probably vastly different from mine, not that you need to explain, nor I, as it won't lead anywhere, much like this exchange we're having...

as I expected you accused "moonbats" of "feeling more sympathy for murdering criminals than victims" and failed to provide a shred of evidence that these people exist. Of course your position is reasonable, your accusations are fair and it's not you, it's me who's starting a flame war by trying to find out who these moonbats are and what exactly they said. Way to go hapa!

Quote from hapaboy:

moonbats being more concerned with Tookie's rights than the lives of the people he murdered.

Earth to Hapa, the people whom Tookie murdered have no rights, they are dead.

 

[steve46]

On a serious note. I am glad the bastard is dead.

 

[hapaboy]

Quote from dddooo:

as I expected you accused "moonbats" of "feeling more sympathy for murdering criminals than victims" and failed to provide a shred of evidence that these people exist. Of course your position is reasonable, your accusations are fair and it's not you, it's me who's starting a flame war by trying to find out who these moonbats are and what exactly they said. Way to go hapa!

You are able to read, aren't you? Then search ET and/or the web and you'll find many examples.

Please cease and desist from trying to engage me in a flame war. Since you are already engaged in flame wars on other threads, I suggest you not try to start another here.

Earth to Hapa, the people whom Tookie murdered have no rights, they are dead.

First of all, you quoted me (correctly) as saying "....the lives of the people he murdered." So, what about murder don't you understand? Earth to dddooo, under your logic, then, when Israelis are murdered by terrorists there is no need to apply capital punishment to their murderers. By your own words, the entire Israeli policy of pursuing and killing Palestinian militants who plan and conduct attacks on Israeli citizens is wrong.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from hapaboy:

when Israelis are murdered by terrorists there is no need to apply capital punishment to their murderers.

Are you saying that people who are against capital punishment "feel more sympathy for murdering criminals than victims"? Cause you obviously failed to come up with any other example of moonbats more sympathetic to criminals than victims.

PS you made a rude, dumb, inflamatory and baseless statement hapa, you have absolutely nothing to back it up, you're being evasive and dishonest, stop accusing me of starting a flame war.

 

[hapaboy]

Zarqawi Found Alive After Bombing
Friday, June 09, 2006

Al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was found alive by Iraqi police and U.S. forces who arrived at the scene of the bombing raid near Baqouba, a U.S. official told FOX News on Friday.

"Zarqawi was alive when U.S. forces arrived on the site," Maj. Gen. William Caldwell said in a satellite interview from Iraq. "The Iraqi police arrived first, they found him in the rubble, put him on a gurney of some type."

Caldwell, the chief U.S. military spokesman in Iraq, said Zarqawi tried to roll off the gurney to escape once he became aware of the fact that he was being taken into custody by coalition troops Wednesday night after two 500-pound precision guided bombs blew up his safehouse near Baqouba.

U.S. forces immediately made a visual identification of Zarqawi but were unable to interrogate him because he died of his injuries "shortly after" being pulled from the rubble, Caldwell said.

Caldwell indicated that U.S. troops "went into the process to provide medical care to him" before he expired. He did not elaborate on the medical assistance.

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This brought a smile to my face.

 

[hapaboy]

Quote from dddooo:

Are you saying that people who are against capital punishment "feel more sympathy for murdering criminals than victims"?

No. Not all. But many.

Cause you obviously failed to come up with any other example of moonbats more sympathetic to criminals than victims.

There are many examples. I just refuse to engage in a flame war with you. Sorry, please continue your flaming on other threads if you must but cease and desist from baiting me on this one.

PS you made a rude, dumb, inflamatory and baseless statement hapa, you have absolutely nothing to back it up, you're being evasive and dishonest, stop accusing me of starting a flame war.

Saying there are moonbats who care more about criminals than victims is "rude, dumb, inflamatory and baseless"?

Please stop your personal attacks.

If you want to continue this discussion, please respond to the issue of the Israeli policy of pursuing and killing Palestinian militants.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from hapaboy:

If you want to continue this discussion, please respond to the issue of the Israeli policy of pursuing and killing Palestinian militants.

I don't really want to continue this discussion, if you feel comfortable throwing wild accusations and then failing to come up with a single example - fine with me, it's your problem, not mine.

As far as Israel is concerned I believe it's absolutely justified in pursuing and killing Palestinian militants but I would never accuse (without solid proof) people who disagree with this policy of supporting militants or being unsympathetic to their victims.

 

[hapaboy]

Quote from dddooo:

I don't really want to continue this discussion, if you feel comfortable throwing wild accusations and then failing to come up with a single example - fine with me, it's your problem, not mine.

They are not "wild accusations," but if you are too lazy to do the research, fine by me.

As far as Israel is concerned I believe it's absolutely justified in pursuing and killing Palestinian militants but I would never accuse (without solid proof) people who disagree with this policy of supporting militants or being unsympathetic to their victims.

How can Israel be justified in pursuing and killing Palestinian militants if, as you say, murdered victims have no rights?

If you don't want to answer, fine by me. Although I could then use it as an example of you making wild statements and then not backing them up, in the interests of not making this a flame war I will let it go.

 

[dddooo]

Quote from hapaboy:

How can Israel be justified in pursuing and killing Palestinian militants if, as you say, murdered victims have no rights?

Dead people have no rights but criminals are still responsible for their crimes and governments have a right (and responsibility) to punish criminals. What do these two things have to do with each other?

Quote from hapaboy:

They are not "wild accusations," but if you are too lazy to do the research, fine by me.

LOL you're the one making accusations but I am supposed to find facts for you. You're losing it hapa.