ABC’s Dan Abrams Predicts Acquittal In Zimmerman Trial

[gwb-trading]

Quote from PiggyBank:

You say zimmerman initiated contact, but again there is ZERO evidence that he did so, or that he landed any strikes at all. The weight of evidence suggests that not only is he not guilty of murder, but totally innocent.

Say it again very loudly - so those with a warped sense of reality understand. - ZIMMERMAN NEVER HIT TRAYVON - NOT ONCE. TRAYVON WAS PUNCHING ZIMMERMAN REPEATEDLY.

 

[Ricter]

Quote from gwb-trading:

Say it again very loudly - so those with a warped sense of reality understand. - ZIMMERMAN NEVER HIT TRAYVON - NOT ONCE. TRAYVON WAS PUNCHING ZIMMERMAN REPEATEDLY.

How do you know?

 

[gwb-trading]

Quote from Ricter:

How do you know?

This is what all the evidence laid out in court clearly and obviously demonstrates to anyone with a rational mind.

Are you trying to say that Zimmerman's knuckles are bruised or that Trayvon had injuries of any type consistent with being punched? Let's hope you don't attempt to invent some type of fiction to support this type of absurd assertion.

 

[Max E.]

Quote from bigarrow:

get back to work to build up my crazy money funds.

Is that what you call the jar you stash your quarters in for your retirement?

look at you high roller i think i even see a fin in there.

 

[pspr]

Quote from bigarrow:

What a poor delusional clown you are piss. Ain't no one getting smashed down here, it's all words by make believe names. The only one who will actually be harmed will be me or Lucrum when we take the iq test and then the harm will only be financial and maybe his pride if he loses. If I lose I will truely be shocked but will admit to all I was wrong and get back to work to build up my crazy money funds.

Little brokenarrow. Now it's all anonymous, no harm no foul. Where did all your delusional boasting go about putting down us conservatives?

You change your tune as often as a piano player in a two bit bar.

You should just keep your boasting to your self because it only plays well in your own pea brain, simpleton.

 

[AAAintheBeltway]

Quote from PiggyBank:

Nope, sorry buddy but you haven't been paying attention. I don't blame you because i hate these national court case 'drama's' but i have been paying attention to this trial because our president decided to politicize it and his corrupt, racist AG is going all out to railroad this guy. You clearly don't know, or are choosing to ignore, the facts as presented yet you are commenting on what happened with some degree of certainty.

There is evidence that treyvon confronted zimmerman, and it is recorded. Zmmerman got off the phone with the dispatcher after having said that he didn't want to give out his address because he had lost sight of martin (and it was near pitch black outside), and he was essentially whispering. Approx 20 seconds after that phone call ended, martins friend heard him say, over the phone, "why u following me?", and that was the FIRST thing she heard said between the two. Why is that important, because if martin was running (or even walking) away, he could have just went home, as the house he was staying at was 60-70 YARDS away from where he was killed. If he took off running and zimmerman lost him, which he did according to the recorded phone call with the dispatcher AND rachel jeantel, then how is it they got in a fight.. unless martin waited for or confronted him?

Here is what we know is indisputable, martin was beating zimmermans ass and was on top of him when he got shot. fact. Some neighbors, the HMA, police etc were aware of the neighborhood watch and what zimmerman was doing, and what he was allowed to do. he did nothing wrong in calling the police and was, for a fact, already out of his car when the dispatcher said "we don't need you to do that" (follow martin). Also, unless zimmerman has stated it somewhere else, then there is no evidence that he continued to pursue martin after the dispatcher told him not to. You say zimmerman initiated contact, but again there is ZERO evidence that he did so, or that he landed any strikes at all. The weight of evidence suggests that not only is he not guilty of murder, but totally innocent.

Basically, everything you've said is false, and that would be understandable before the trial (but still irresponsible).. now it just isn't. And when you ask:


Shouldn't you instead be asking: "If zimmerman is convicted, is it now officially illegal for anyone who even appears white to defend themselves against a minority, in the United States of America."

Well stated.

The prosecution's case is a despicable appeal to emotion, and the judge has largely gone along with it.

 

[achilles28]

Quote from jaygould:

So if I were to follow your wife or daughter and the next thing you know, she ends up dead and I have injuries, you would have no problem with this ?

Trayvon broke Zimmermans nose and left a big gash on the back of his head. Indicative of Zimmerman having his head bashed on the ground.

My wife or daughter couldn't do that.

Now, if Zimmerman initiated violence against Trayvon, then he's at fault, guilty of at least manslaughter. Arguably, murder. But because there is only one living witness, and we have a justice system that presumes innocence, lest beyond a reasonable doubt, it's a done deal.

I'm not saying Zimmerman is innocent. He very well may have started the fight. But no witness can corroborate that. So he walks.

Thats it.

Now consider circumstantial evidence. Trayvons a scrapper, hot head, with pictures holding guns and talking about selling weed, with prior fights. Hmm. Just a guess, but its likely Trayvon got spooked (his mistake), jumped on Zimmerman, gave him a good beatdown, and that was the last mistake he ever made. A tragedy, but he fucked up.

The question is why can't black people accept that? Young people, in general, rush to violence, which, especially in an armed society like the US, is a big roll of the dice.

 

[trendlover]

Quote from PiggyBank:


There is evidence that treyvon confronted zimmerman, and it is recorded. Zmmerman got off the phone with the dispatcher after having said that he didn't want to give out his address because he had lost sight of martin (and it was near pitch black outside), and he was essentially whispering. Approx 20 seconds after that phone call ended, martins friend heard him say, over the phone, "why u following me?", and that was the FIRST thing she heard said between the two.
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Please provide proof of this "20 seconds" you talk about


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"Approx 20 seconds after that phone call ended, martins friend heard him say, over the phone, "why u following me?",

 

[bigarrow]

Quote from achilles28:

Trayvon broke Zimmermans nose and left a big gash on the back of his head. Indicative of Zimmerman having his head bashed on the ground.

My wife or daughter couldn't do that.

Now, if Zimmerman initiated violence against Trayvon, then he's at fault, guilty of at least manslaughter. Arguably, murder. But because there is only one living witness, and we have a justice system that presumes innocence, lest beyond a reasonable doubt, it's a done deal.

I'm not saying Zimmerman is innocent. He very well may have started the fight. But no witness can corroborate that. So he walks.

Thats it.

Now consider circumstantial evidence. Trayvons a scrapper, hot head, with pictures holding guns and talking about selling weed, with prior fights. Hmm. Just a guess, but its likely Trayvon got spooked (his mistake), jumped on Zimmerman, gave him a good beatdown, and that was the last mistake he ever made. A tragedy, but he fucked up.

The question is why can't black people accept that? Young people, in general, rush to violence, which, especially in an armed society like the US, is a big roll of the dice.

Good post until you got to the imaginary part. You could just as reasonably made up a story where Martin was afraid for his life and tried to protect himself. And Zimmermans background is as bad as Martins not that it matters.

 

[PiggyBank]

Quote from trendlover:

Quote from PiggyBank:


There is evidence that treyvon confronted zimmerman, and it is recorded. Zmmerman got off the phone with the dispatcher after having said that he didn't want to give out his address because he had lost sight of martin (and it was near pitch black outside), and he was essentially whispering. Approx 20 seconds after that phone call ended, martins friend heard him say, over the phone, "why u following me?", and that was the FIRST thing she heard said between the two.
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Please provide proof of this "20 seconds" you talk about


Quote from PiggyBank:[/i]

"Approx 20 seconds after that phone call ended, martins friend heard him say, over the phone, "why u following me?",

I must have confused that with the time difference of the final two calls between martin and jeantel (according to the defense). Ironically, it seems to me that the more time elapsed, the worse for the prosecution. Again, martin was 60-70 yards from where he was staying, in 20 seconds he easily could have made it home.. in 2-3 minutes he could have belly crawled home if he wanted to. But that isn't where he went, is it? He wasn't the scared little boy you want to believe he was.

And since you are looking for holes in what i said and that is what you found, then you looked into, and understand that the rest has been established as fact, right? So seriously, would you convict this guy of murder?