Use the cash stashed outside the US to buy a company outside the US?
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Either/or...
Say they wanted to buy Acme VR based in San Jose,CA. Do they have to pay taxes on the money they bring in to buy it? So if Acme costs 1 Billion, they have to bring in 1.35 Billion?
Or can they structure the deal outside the US? And how would that work when Acme starts being accretive to the bottom line?
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Vanz, I was thinking about this a while back.
What if they buy an empty shell company, listed in Europe somewhere. Transfer all their cash overseas earnings in it. Then spin-off that company, so all current Apple shareholders own a similar part of that company as well... Then have that company pay out 100% dividend.
No penalty for repatriation... simple...
And if needed they can then do a secondary IPO to get some cash back in the US...
Yes, perhaps similar to some form of a Reverse Morris Trust sale.Vanz, I was thinking about this a while back.
What if they buy an empty shell company, listed in Europe somewhere. Transfer all their cash overseas earnings in it. Then spin-off that company, so all current Apple shareholders own a similar part of that company as well... Then have that company pay out 100% dividend.
No penalty for repatriation... simple...
And if needed they can then do a secondary IPO to get some cash back in the US...
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I keep reinventing stuff... I'll put this one as well on my list of great ideas that have already been done... thanks...
I saw this over the weekend.
It's a nice market comparison you don't normally see.
Basically, they illustrated the growth of iPhones and the annual percentage of current owners that buy a new phone every year. The article only emphasizes the replacement rate, not new owners.
But in 2018 they are suggesting that 203 MN iPhone owners will be ready for a new replacement. That is approximately 51 MN per quarter.
'Apple sold 212 million iPhone in its fiscal year for 2016, down 8%. '
They sold 45 MN iPhones in 3Q of last year and 76 MN in 4Q of last year.
The growth rate is phenomenal and I believe the retention rate among current owners that buy another one is the highest in the industry at 76%.
They can basically retain their current sales rate just by selling to current customers.
These are pretty impressive statistics.
Imagine what it would be like if they sold the Iphone 4 or 5 in developing markets like India or China where more people could afford to buy a cheaper iPhone.
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The installed base of current iPhone users now stands at about 691 million phones, according to Sacconaghi. By 2018 that number is estimated to be 855 million:
By 2018, 203 million iPhones will become old enough that users are likely to buy a new model:
The upgrade rate stays at roughly 1 in every 4 iPhones in the installed base, annually:
In other words, Apple can expect to get a year's worth of new iPhone sales simply from the one-quarter of existing iPhone users who feel they will need a new phone.
http://www.businessinsider.com/ipho...tm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=referral&r=UK&IR=T
http://bgr.com/2014/03/14/apple-vs-samsung-customer-loyalty/
http://www.infositehub.com/apple-iphone-plus-sell-ever-4q-2016/
It's a nice market comparison you don't normally see.
Basically, they illustrated the growth of iPhones and the annual percentage of current owners that buy a new phone every year. The article only emphasizes the replacement rate, not new owners.
But in 2018 they are suggesting that 203 MN iPhone owners will be ready for a new replacement. That is approximately 51 MN per quarter.
'Apple sold 212 million iPhone in its fiscal year for 2016, down 8%. '
They sold 45 MN iPhones in 3Q of last year and 76 MN in 4Q of last year.
The growth rate is phenomenal and I believe the retention rate among current owners that buy another one is the highest in the industry at 76%.
They can basically retain their current sales rate just by selling to current customers.
These are pretty impressive statistics.
Imagine what it would be like if they sold the Iphone 4 or 5 in developing markets like India or China where more people could afford to buy a cheaper iPhone.
-----
The installed base of current iPhone users now stands at about 691 million phones, according to Sacconaghi. By 2018 that number is estimated to be 855 million:
By 2018, 203 million iPhones will become old enough that users are likely to buy a new model:
The upgrade rate stays at roughly 1 in every 4 iPhones in the installed base, annually:
In other words, Apple can expect to get a year's worth of new iPhone sales simply from the one-quarter of existing iPhone users who feel they will need a new phone.
http://www.businessinsider.com/ipho...tm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=referral&r=UK&IR=T
http://bgr.com/2014/03/14/apple-vs-samsung-customer-loyalty/
http://www.infositehub.com/apple-iphone-plus-sell-ever-4q-2016/
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That's a nice pic of their HQ and they have a new one under construction.
I hope they don't fall under the new HQ syndrome.
A lot of companies build brand new headquarters and then go bust a few years later........GM, Enron, Sears. But Apple has $246 BN on hand........so that's not likely to happen.