AAPL - Earnings this Monday - Buy OTM QQQ weekly calls on Monday

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UPDATE:

I have entered a limit order to sell at $1.00, good till November 1, 2013. AAPL down 1.22% during AH trading, QQQ down 0.17%.

QQQ 5-day chart
Red dot - Bought 10 contracts 83.50 calls at $0.32

That was the advantage you had with QQQ-- you have more time.

So you are not playing the alpha of appl but the effect of alpha change of appl on the deltas of QQQ calls.
 
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Sold a few hundreed of Nov 500/550 strangle @ around 19 (sorry, not gonna disclose the exact size or level). Have not hedged the delta yet.

Why you did not sell Jan instead? A hypothetical for tomorrow as a comparison.
 
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I believe your analysis is incorrect.
Please, do elaborate...

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So essentially the market was predicting a gap of 30, and your bet was it would be less than (20 + premium).
At different times during the day, the market was predicting earnings move from 7% to 8.5%.
 
well apple closed AH at 523.5........better hope for a volitile pre market, all of those option holders are gonna get smoked from what it looks like tonight
 
Quote from FXforex:
The AAPL calls are expensive. I'm thinking the 83.50 QQQ calls, depends on how the QQQ moves on Monday. QQQ is about 12% AAPL.
Quote from sle:
Disagree with this statement. Implied 1-day move in AAPL is 8.7% right now. Implied 1 day move in QQQ is 1.7%, which, divided by 12.5% weight gives you like 14% implied move. Personally, I think this vol is a sell.
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I believe your analysis is incorrect.
Quote from sle:
Please, do elaborate...


"Implied 1 day move in QQQ is 1.7%" must be a typo, even for the rest of the week it's high. My 83.50 calls would be worth $0.83.

$82.92 + 1.7% = $84.33
 
Tomorrow early AM dip, then rip higher, the market wont reverse IMO until Wednesdays FOMC minutes, marking a DCH, we correct for a week or 2, then march higher towards 1800.
 
Quote from FXforex:

"Implied 1 day move in QQQ is 1.7%" must be a typo, even for the rest of the week it's high. My 83.50 calls would be worth $0.83.

$82.92 + 1.7% = $84.33
Break-even of an option is not the same thing as implied move for a single day which you are going to delta hedge.

Let's say the weekly straddle is priced at 1.75% - since a straddle price is approximately 0.8 * volatility * sqrt(T), the average implied volatility is 0.0175/(0.8*sqrt(5/252)) = 15.5%. This "average" is a combination of 1 large event move and the regular volatility, which you can impute from longer-dated options (it's like 11% annualized). So, average_vol^2 = ((T-1)*regular_vol^2 + event_vol^2); rearranging it you can solve for the event vol, sqrt(((5/252)*.155^2 - (4/252)*.12^2)) = 1.57%.

You 83.5 calls should be worth very little even with the implied move, as an estimate, (0.16 * 0.4 * sqrt(4/252)) - log(83.50/82.92) * 0.5 = 0.0045, .45% * 82.92 = 0.35 cents.

PS. I am at the park walking the dogs, so calculations are a bit on the rough side, but should be ok.

PPS. the right way to calculate the implied move is to solve a system of two equations from two implied vols, but the rough calc above is good enough
 
u guys are just rolling a magic 8 ball at best, so all these calcs are just eyewash.

at least you've accomplished something useful. (dog pooped)
 
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